bitman
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Honesty guys, I mean really now.
I've got splat on "lifetime updates" so it's owned by me till kingdom come. There is more daw in there that I can use or even know about. The tempo extraction is the best thing for me since the virtual effect. There has to be many in the same blessed boat. I see no reason to cross grade in my lifetime until maybe there are virtual session musicians and singers that are comparable to flesh and blood. And that will be a VST anyway. SONAR for life regartless! 
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wetdentist
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 20:22:35
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☄ Helpfulby jude77 2017/11/24 16:21:17
yeah but windows updates & dying motherboards and hard drives though. that's what worries me
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 20:23:53
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Yes, I agree. Until the authentication servers go down and Sonar stops working.
Splat, Win 10 64bit and all sorts of musical odds and sods collected over the years, but still missing a lot of my old analogue stuff I sold off years ago.
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bitman
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 21:07:07
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Authentication servers are a non issue for lifetimers afaik?
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Slugbaby
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 21:22:23
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bitman
Authentication servers are a non issue for lifetimers afaik?
We'll probably need to authenticate a new install if we need to replace our PCs. I'm hoping that's far enough down the road that I'm ready to purchase a new application. i have no intention on going out tomorrow and buying new software.
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bitman
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 21:26:02
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Are you sure it's licensed to the hardware?
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jbraner
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 21:46:52
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good questions - it would be good to know we can reinstall on a new PC in the future...
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bitman
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 22:03:52
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I'm about to. Maybe even as early as tomorrow.
My r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d dell precision xeon boat anchor is showing signs of further MB r-e-t-a-r-d-a-t-i-o-n and I have a apt candidate box down at the shop someone left behind.
And we cant say r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d. wow. Doesn't offend me and I could be.
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michael diemer
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 22:22:40
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Don't leave Sonar if you don't want to. Others have suggested this, but I'll point it out again: You can put whichever version you have that is stable and works for you, on a dedicated drive, which is not connected to the internet, so no Windows updates can break it. This will work forever. Also, make some images, and you're all set. For older folks, this can be a great solution. If you're in your sixties, how long are you going to need it? But even if not, this can still be a permanent way to always have Sonar. Maybe you'll gradually start using something else, but you'll still have old faithful whenever you need it. No need to jump ship now. Save your money.
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 22:31:21
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Open Help-About Sonar
If your copy says "Owned" on the Sonar about screen....
Then Sonar will work until there is a nuclear explosion.
Im staying with Sonar for now until technology starts coming out with brain reading VSTs.
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stickman393
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 22:36:08
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bitman
Authentication servers are a non issue for lifetimers afaik?
Until you need to reinstall, either because of hardware upgrade or recovering from a disk failure. And possibly after a Windows 10 Feature release.
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batsbrew
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 22:46:38
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the issue is changing computers,
and moving the software.
without new authorization..........
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MandolinPicker
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/23 22:48:54
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Hey gang, if you go through the 'offline authorization' route, you can download an authorization file (actually about 7 files when you include plug-ins). The good news is that if you need to reinstall on the same machine using the same OS, you are fine. However, the authorization file is specific to the machine and OS. As for me, I'm staying on Windows 8.1 (for more reasons other than SONAR, mostly because of the way Win 10 snoopware operates). If I get a new machine, the file will not be any good.
Hope that helps
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jbraner
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/24 09:27:15
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batsbrew
the issue is changing computers,
and moving the software.
without new authorization..........
*this* is the issue... And we can't test it out - until the Cakewalk servers go away (ie when it's too late) ;-) It's really, so that we can open up older projects - a few years from now. I'm still using an old copy of Adobe Audition 3, from before they went subscription. It required authorisation and of course those servers are long gone. I had problems when I had to re-install it - but I found a version that can be installed and doesn't require authorisation any more. Hopefully the bakers will come up with something for us - for after the servers go away. (which may be a long time away)
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mudgel
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/24 15:30:40
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PLEASE READY THE STICKY REGARDING FUTURE ACTIVATION. ITS AT THE TOP OF EVERY FORUM.
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mudgel
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/24 15:30:44
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Mike V. (MUDGEL) STUDIO: Win 10 Pro x64, SPlat & CbB x64, PC: ASUS Z370-A, INTEL i7 8700k, 32GIG DDR4 2400, OC 4.7Ghz. Storage: 7 TB SATA III, 750GiG SSD & Samsung 500 Gig 960 EVO NVMe M.2. Monitors: Adam A7X, JBL 10” Sub. Audio I/O & DSP Server: DIGIGRID IOS & IOX. Screen: Raven MTi + 43" HD 4K TV Monitor. Keyboard Controller: Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S88.
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jbraner
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Re: Honesty guys, I mean really now.
2017/11/24 15:40:05
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mudgel
PLEASE READY THE STICKY REGARDING FUTURE ACTIVATION. ITS AT THE TOP OF EVERY FORUM.
Thanks mudge - but give us a break huh? This info just cane out last night, and there is a complete ****storm of posts to wade through - so it's *just* possible to miss this. It's good news though! ;-)
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