dcmg
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Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
Scenario: When I select a track to edit, as I switch from an "all tracks" view to the individual track, I have leftover horizontal lines that correspond with the various clip groups that are shown in previous view. I've verified that the lines are not random, but line up perfectly with the way groups are represented in a closed folder. My installs of SONAR have done this back to SONAR X days and with 2 distinct graphics cards during that time ( Intel on chip, and currently NVidia GT 730). Currently on Sonar Plat. Anyone else run into this or is this a known issue with certain graphics cards? Thanks in advance.  
post edited by dcmg - 2016/02/16 12:19:48
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/17 14:06:25
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☄ Helpfulby dcmg 2016/02/18 00:10:35
I've had a handful of minor graphics related anomalies over the years, but can't say I've ever seen that!
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/17 16:14:36
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☄ Helpfulby dcmg 2016/02/18 00:10:50
If I do not work for 3 hours on the computer with an open project, I see little pink flashing squares on one of my computers. No joke. And only with SONAR.
If I continue working, after 30 minutes the squares disappear.
I also have a computer that crashes when a project in SONAR is open, and I'm not woking at it over some hours. This is also the problem of a Nvidia graphiccard.
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/17 23:56:34
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Thank you both for the replies. Sounds like both of you have had your own odd ball graphics issues, and the lack of additional replies tells me this particular issue is specific to my system ( on two different graphics cards really baffles me tho...)
Other odd notes: If I zoom (Vert or Hor) the phantom horizontal lines stay put...so it does act like a graphic remnant that isn't refreshed.
However..If I return to my "all tracks" view and
1) hide all folders
2) select/focus on one track to edit
the phantom horizontal lines disappear ( because folders *weren't* visible in prior screen)
For anyone else that ever finds this thread with a similar issue, my workaround:
I save my "all tracks" view to Screenset 1
I save a frequently edited track isolated to Screenset 2.
Switching views this way (instead of "show selected track" shortcut) DOES NOT result in the phantom horizontal lines.
If the lines are really hampering your editing space, this is a reasonably workaround :)
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 11:21:44
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☄ Helpfulby dcmg 2016/02/18 12:06:56
Might deleting all contents of the Picture Cache folder help? Sonar will rebuild it as needed, but sometimes nuking its contents helps graphic performance in Sonar - resolving things like hesitancy with scrolling of the Now Time Marker, etc....
It won't hurt anything to do a cleaning out of the Picture Cache folder's contents, and is super quick and easy to test out.
And if it doesn't resolve this, you will still maybe end up with some snappier screen redraw performance.
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 11:35:11
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☄ Helpfulby dcmg 2016/02/18 12:06:53
I have seen glitches like this in other software.
Turned out to be a combination of screen resolution and a font size other than 100%.
The offending software could not deal with a very high resolution (like 2560x2048) if I set the font size to be greater than 100%.
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 11:53:06
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Interesting ideas. Tried the pic cache purge, but no change.
I believe all my resolutions/text sizes are normal/native/typical etc but I will look into that too.
Really appreciate the ideas.
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 12:19:27
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☄ Helpfulby dcmg 2016/02/18 22:52:50
I am wondering if that is a potential corruption in Windows. Have you ever reinstalled windows during the period you have noticed this? If not, Windows has a built-in sfc (system file check function) you should try to see if it finds issues. Open the command prompt and "sfc /scannow"
The other item is C++ distributables can also be corrupted, but think those would need reinstallation separate of an sfc. There are some posts in here on links to the distributables.
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 12:42:29
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☄ Helpfulby dcmg 2016/02/18 22:52:46
I believe you might need/want to run the sfc /scannow in an elevated command prompt, if memory serves.
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 13:54:44
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☄ Helpfulby dcmg 2016/02/18 22:52:35
Also run a comprehensive memory checker. A bad piece of memory in the video range could cause display anomalies.
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 17:46:50
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Excellent ideas, thank you.
Last OS re-install was approx 16 months ago- issue was present prior install and current ( suggesting hardware?)
I usually re-image every 1.5 year, so maybe I'm due.
sfc came back clean; the buildup of C++ dist's is always a possible black hole. I'll look up those other threads to see if anything looks like it applies.
Memory checker is an interesting idea. Is the old Memtest comprehensive enough or is something else better suited?
Memtest and Prime95 ran well when I did last OS Re-install.
Thanks again for the thoughtful and excellent suggestions.
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 17:50:00
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☄ Helpfulby dcmg 2016/02/18 22:52:28
I've had these exact graphical glitches (but not to the extent pictured). It can reliably be reproduced on my system when I hide entire folders of tracks using the Track Manager. Closing the project and reopening the project makes them go away.
This only manifested itself recently (AFAICT) and it was in Lexington that I really noticed it. I have not done any folder hiding since updating to Manchester so I don't know if it's persisting.
But yeah... I have seen exactly this. It is a graphical glitch. Restarting the program makes them go away.
I've had a few other little "blackout" type areas too involving things like Icons and little paramater/track number boxes that tend to go away after scrolling around and have always occasionally gotten weird vertical blackout lines.
The problem shown though is very new and very specific and will not go away until a restart (but clearing the picture cache may solve it as well... never tried because I jsut save and restart).
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Re: Horizontal Lines Present When Viewing Individual Tracks For Editing
2016/02/18 22:42:38
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Thanks Beepster.
I'm still on Lexington ( try not to update with several projects at mid-point). So that's a common point.
My observation is slightly different:
a) restarting program doesn't eliminate the lines
b) clearing pic cache doesn't work either
c) reliably reproduced when working in "all tracks" view then isolating one track to view ( ie hiding all others including folders)
Thanks again for the input.
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