Horrible Cursor Problem In Sonar X1

EDIT: THANKS SO MUCH! PROBLEM SOLVED!
 
I had a horrible cursor problem crop up when using the "smart" cursor in Sonar X1.
Its behavior totally changed and I have no idea how to change it back. I made a video to explain:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr96xoUqnHs
 
Please let me know if you know how to change this back. It has been frustrating to lose productivity over something so seemingly trivial.

you'll have to go to the envelope filter in the track view and change it back to clips (on the choosen track, it's the drop down list

Can you get there with an inadvertent key stroke? That would suck if you hit that by mistake and got that weird cursor. Is that what happened to the OP?

I think You're supposed to be able to Shift-Scroll through Edit Filters, but it doesn't work for me. Maybe it does for him.

brundlefly


You have the Edit Filter on that Track set to edit Automation Envelopes. Go to the first dropdown box in the track header, and change it back to Clips.

Looks like we've got it covered.

WOW, THATs IT! LOL
 
But seriously, somehow I got every MIDI track's edit filter set to edit the output bus.
 
I did not command Sonar X1 to do this and the feature was not there in the previous version, so I was very confused.
 
It would be great if there was a way to keep this from "accidentally" happening. It really had me going "WTF" for 5 hours having come from previous Sonar versions.

SHIFT + RIGHT-CLICK [on the clip] -- I think that's what I did accidentally, and as luck would have it I did it during a CTRL+A so everything was selected.

It's ACTUALLY kind of useful now that I know it's there and what it is . . . . but it was very puzzling to have done it accidentally.

Hey Corling glad that was it. Another thing. If you hold down the control key, with no tracks selected, any action you do to any track will be done to all the tracks.

More advice. Run. Now. Do not walk - to these free videos, it'll save your sanity.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2179736

HumbleNoise


Hey Corling glad that was it. Another thing. If you hold down the control key, with no tracks selected, any action you do to any track will be done to all the tracks.

More advice. Run. Now. Do not walk - to these free videos, it'll save your sanity.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2179736

That one piece of advice (about CTRL) should be plastered around.  It's a very cool feature and I suspect most will not know of it without either stumbling on it or reading the documentation.
 
 

HumbleNoise


Hey Corling glad that was it. Another thing. If you hold down the control key, with no tracks selected, any action you do to any track will be done to all the tracks.

More advice. Run. Now. Do not walk - to these free videos, it'll save your sanity.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2179736

Slight correction - holding down control performs the same action on every track of the same type (e.g. only mutes audio tracks if the track you mute is an audio track).

RLD

brundlefly


I think You're supposed to be able to Shift-Scroll through Edit Filters, but it doesn't work for me. Maybe it does for him.

That doesn't work, but press the mouse wheel in a clip to get the tools, then move the mouse wheel and the edit filter tab opens.

Yeah. I know about that one, but it doesn't work if you use Wizmouse, and while you've got the HUD open, you might as well just click the dropdown and select the desired filter. 

John


With the Smart tool a track needs to be a certain minimum size for it to work properly. It needs some space for it to know where it is in the clip. It will change according to where in the clip it is. The manual tools don't required this.

Does it? My smart tool works at the smallest I can get a track. (not with minimised layers obviously)

Have you tried splitting a clip with a minimized track with the Smart tool. Some things will work but others need space. BTW this was confirmed by a post from a CW employee.

 
Just tried it. No problem splitting either audio or MIDI clips by Alt-clicking with the Smart tool. Selecting a range by dragging in the top half and moving by dragging in the lower half also works with minimized tracks, as do other tools and operations that depend on position in the clip, even dragging a fade handle vs. slip-editing.
 
What exactly was confirmed?

John


You shouldn't have to use a keybind to do that. I guess it matters what smart means. The tool with a track of the right size isn't supposed to need keys to activate the right tool.

ALT key is how X1 changes the smart tool to a split tool.

John


Have you tried splitting a clip with a minimized track with the Smart tool. Some things will work but others need space. BTW this was confirmed by a post from a CW employee.

Yep, and I take back my comment about minimised layers, it works on them too. The only limitation is my ability to actually see what's going on, not the smart tool's to function correctly.

Yep, and I take back my comment about minimised layers, it works on them too. The only limitation is my ability to actually see what's going on, not the smart tool's to function correctly.

I think what you are saying about not being able to see what it going on could be the reason I think its important to have a decent size track.