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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 14:51:59
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you have to be careful with these grocery stores.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 15:04:03
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 15:07:00
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My cheesecake tasted like blindfolded horse. It was probably the mask-a-pony.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 15:08:19
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Who the heck eats prepared burgers?
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 15:12:45
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 15:15:56
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mike_mccue I meant the frozen stuff you find at the grocery. But McDonald's equally yucky. The only fast food/burgers I like is A&W. There aren't a lot of these here in the US it seems, at least compared to McDonalds and Burger Kings.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 15:55:04
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Nothing will kill you faster than processed foods. Both my parents, unfortunately, very much into eating crap. I grew up around an absolutely crap diet. In my 20s I totally changed that behavior and have spent nearly ten years on a mostly pescetarian diet, with occasional game meat. I haven't had fast food since eating burger king sometime in early 2007. Mom and dad are spending their mid 60s very sick. My brother was recently diagnosed with type 2, and high triglycerides. If I am out and about all day long, and I get stuck in a situation where my options are: No food. Wendy's or McDonalds. I simply do not eat. When I see people, and they weigh 300 pounds, and they are coming out the door of McDonalds, with a Coca Cola in the hand... I do not find it funny. Recently I've given up red bull. Cigarettes.. I only smoke hand rolling tobacco, but I'm damn addicted to nicotine, and I do not have an answer for it yet. What I might have to do, is give up beer ( the only alcohol I drink ), coffee ( love it ), and cigarettes.. all at the same time. This might be the only way for me to quit smoking.. all three are very linked for me.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 16:15:46
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Yeah I too cannot understand why people eat that crap...to me it doesn't even taste good. Healthiest diet I ever ate was in my mid 20's when I went all raw for a few months. Every meal was like this giant bumper salad that had sprouted seeds (sprouted myself), spinach, kale, seaweed, avocado, beet, mushrooms, vine tomatoes, red onions and a ton of other stuff. It was a high maintenance diet but boy was I healthy. My skin was flawless, I glowed, and I had so much energy that I'd wake up at 4am and have to go for a run. It all fell apart one day when I bumped into an old school buddy in town. We ended up going for a drink, then it was back to his place where a whole bunch of people were smoking pot and eating pizza. I ended up hanging out with them for a few months....bye bye healthy living. These days I don't eat meat, don't drink or smoke, and eat as much as I can raw. Like Linear Phase I would rather not eat at all than eat junk food, it just tastes like crap and makes me feel like crap immediately after eating it.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 17:27:38
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Can't be any worse than Jack in the Box serving up Kangaroo meat during the early '80's.... priceless. Wait... does Horse qualify as game meet? Just Sayin'
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 19:27:17
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I love fast food. My favorite is BK, but you gotta special order a burger so they make it fresh. Love fries, burgers, those little mcnuggets. Did anyone ever try a Holiday Pie? OMG. McyD's has about the best coffee I've ever had in my life. I stopped eating fast food about 3 months ago because I just didn't want to spend the money on it any more. I don't feel any better or worse and I haven't gained or lost any weight. Don't miss it or crave it. And you're talking to a guy that drove 40,000 miles a year for work and lived off fast food for 20 years. I really think all the hype about feeling like crap when you eat it is all in people head's. It's almost impossible to find food without preservatives in it now days ... and look how much longer people are living these days compared to the days when people grew their own food. A&W is more down south here in the U.S. Stewart's Root Beer is another similar place. But here in the Mid West ... Sonic. It's almost like pulling in to Al's Drive In.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 20:31:40
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2 more years. "It's almost impossible to find food without preservatives in it now days" Try the produce section. :-)
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 20:35:32
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produce section=pesticides, herbicides and other such things. go organic...grow your own in fresh soil...
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 21:03:17
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I limit fast food to just once a week because for the most part I prefer to roll my own; I like to cook up favorites such as; Yukon Gold potatoes, Carrots and Sweet Potatoes 'oven baked' in a cast iron skillet... comes out crispy golden! Oven roast a slab of Rib Eye, so simple yet so fricken delicious! Pork Butt, oh yeah baby; first off I give it a good hard slap and then marinate it overnight in my own special blend before I cook it,. No kidding; it comes out so juicy and tender you can easily eat it with a fork. Burgers; so easy; first up get quality beef; the color should be a deep red (NOT PINK) hand-make patties (easily done) and slap them on a cast iron grill with a little salt and pepper. Not over seasoning it retains it's natural 'beefy' flavor. All my cast iron cookware is very well pre-seasoned so nothing sticks to it.... just tonight I cooked up Crab Cakes with Sweet and Gold Potatoes clean cuts all baked together on a very large cast iron griddle (also a pizza pan) it all came out crispy golden! So easy to cook all that in less than 30 minutes. Love it! For breakfast; I love becan (fat cooked out and strained on paper towels), scrambled eggs and left-over potatoes (diced) and finally topped with gravy. It's so fulfilling and satisfying it may as well be a brunch! But hey, I only have this once a week, other times it's a bowl of healthy fiber cereal or toast with honey, or all fruit spread or that Aussie icon; Vegemite, and I love to wash all that down with a cup of good imported tea. In summer, hard to beat a fresh salad that contains more than just green mulch; I need to have cherry tomatoes, sliced sweet beets (the purple juice doubles up as the dressing), carrots, alfalfa, cheese and either 'real' lean becan pieces or diced ham.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 22:03:25
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/15 22:10:52
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mike_mccue 2 more years. "It's almost impossible to find food without preservatives in it now days" Try the produce section. :-) trimph is right, it's all dowsed with all kinds of chemicals. Plus some of it is Irradiated. Supposedly 100% safe, and recommended according to the USDA and FDA of course.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 06:48:15
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Bub I love fast food. My favorite is BK, but you gotta special order a burger so they make it fresh. Love fries, burgers, those little mcnuggets. Did anyone ever try a Holiday Pie? OMG. D'ya wanna Diet Coke with that?
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 08:07:08
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Bub mike_mccue 2 more years. "It's almost impossible to find food without preservatives in it now days" Try the produce section. :-) trimph is right, it's all dowsed with all kinds of chemicals. Plus some of it is Irradiated. Supposedly 100% safe, and recommended according to the USDA and FDA of course. It's not like they inject the "stuff" into the vegetables and fruits... the way they do with the meat that ends up in the meat counter. My guess, and this is coming from a live long whole foods organic food enthusiast, is that the commercial grade produce in the supermarket is doused with a lot less stuff than you think it is. All that stuff costs money and most farmers use a little as they can get away with. The real problem, for me, is that produce is usually picked to early so that there is time for transport before it rots. That's why local gardens are so superior... you can eat the food while it still has a breath of life in it. I had some of the best lettuce EVER the other day... it was picked about 20 minutes before we ate it as a simple salad. Yummmmm. It seems like you are using some factual information about mild food processing techniques to justify exposing your self to the worst food processing as if it's all comparable. Here's another small nutrition factoid. Some of the most nutritious vegetables in a super market are in the freezer section... because they are picked when ripe and processed in refrigeration units right in the actual field... and so retain more nutrition that many "fresh" products that were picked to early and sold when stale. I think that people who eat well can instantly notice the impact of bad food on their systems. That's how my body is working if I continue to eat well I feel great, if I eat junk food I feel junky almost immediately. People whom have destroyed their systems with years of bad food aren't going to be made to feel well simply by eating good food... they need to fix all the damage done by the years of bad food before feeling better... and some of that stuff isn't fixable. The recently acquired pastime of swallowing high fructose corn syrup in mass quantities is going to blow out a bunch of livers with irreversible damage... just like it happens with alcoholics. Having said that... It seems like a good fresh piece of Horse meat can be pretty healthy. Do horses have Filet Mignon or stuff like that? Good times. best regards, mike
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 08:29:55
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I'm not so worried about the stuff they find like this. It's the stuff that doesn't get found and continues to be sold while people lull themselves into the idea what they eat is of a higher quality. Congratulations to the authorities in place that detect this kind of practice which goes undetected many places outside the UK. We have a good record of being looked down on for finding practises that occur elsewhere but people remain oblivious to because for reasons of economics people don't blow the whistle as enthusiastically as they should. Added to that the horsemeat used here is probably of a better quality than the approved offal passed off as beef that is thrown into this type of 'budget' product. It's just likely made from older animals that haven't been pumped up with all the hormones and who knows what that makes the beef nice and plump prematurely before it's slaughtered. A cows sphincter to me doesn't seem any more appealing than a horses, each to their own though I suppose. Yammy!...
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 08:39:34
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Go to a restaurant in Paris, select "Steak" from the menu - you'll get horsemeat. If you want a regular steak as we know it, you have to select Beefsteak
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 09:16:17
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I hear horse meat tastes like chicken.....only stringier and chewier.... I think I heard about a plan to allow horse meat here in the US.... could already be in some places.... it's meat...why not? Like a cow, goat, chicken, or hog... as far as the processed stuff..... anything you buy in the store, that comes from most farms and has the FDA stamp on it will have been fed a controlled diet, injected with antibiotics, and growth hormones, most likely. That's simply how they do it. Specialized organic/hormone free/antibiotic free/free range farms sell their meats but generally not in the chain supermarkets. One about 30 miles from here sells direct from the farm store. The other option is the path of the hunter..... kill it and grill it. the wild animals are 100% free range and drug free.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 09:16:23
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When I was a kid, we couldn't afford horse steak. We ate worn out saddles. At least, that's what it tasted like when it finished burning. Back then, the world did not contain enough chemicals to make that taste "Meatish", so we made do with buckets of ketchup. You'd dunk your steak/char-brick/toxic waste in the ketchup, turn your head so the resulting green cloud wouldn't choke you or burn your eyes too badly, and let it soak for a few minutes. If you were lucky, it would dissolve and you wouldn't have to eat it. Unfortunately, that almost never happened. There was no point in trying to cut the steak. I can't recall how many knives we broke trying to cut it into bite sized pieces. Instead, you'd stifle your gag reflex and intentionally put the "food" in your mouth. Sure enough, your vomit tasted better. Still, that sort of thing typically led to a very loud and somewhat violent confrontation at the dinner table, so you tried to avoid it if possible. You could suck on it like a Poisonous Ash-Cicle, but that was just delaying the inevitable. Biting into it was not within the realm of possibility, so you'd settle for wrestling with it, trying to either tear off a piece or rip off your own jaw so you wouldn't have to eat this ever again. The latter option was usually my preference. In the extremely unlikely event that you managed to chip off a chunk small enough to swallow, doing so would forever burn into your psyche a deeper understanding of the word, "Regret". I look forward to dining on horse soon.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 09:18:44
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 09:37:16
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Guitarhacker wild animals are 100% free range and drug free. Game taken by surprise is usually good sweet meat. Game taken on the run is tainted with a high dosage of sour adrenaline that accompanies panic. Of course this adrenaline is also present in all the meat acquired from the conveyor belt system where animals panic as they witness their colleagues being killed. Some of us vegetarians think that adrenaline is bad for you. :-) Only the really good hunters and the most thoughtful farmers know what a good clean piece of meat tastes like. best regards, mike
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 09:42:35
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The Postman ate horse and ate his donkey or jackass, I don't recall which. The difference was he knew when he was eating horse meat. Makes sense one would need to be told if it wasn't a familiar meal.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 09:48:19
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Unlike some of the stories I post here, this one contains no exaggeration or creative license. I knew a teacher (in my immediate family) when I was in high school who worked during the summer at the stockyards. He loved his work there and he'd describe his day in extremely graphic detail. There was one man there who had a very unique job. He had a long stick or a baseball bat and he would stand near the ramp leading into a corral. When hogs were unloaded down the ramp and into the corral, he would break their noses. This was not a calm and quiet process. The stated reason for this activity was that hogs with broken noses don't fight. That means no meat lost due to hog on hog violence. I'm not sure what that did to their adrenaline levels, but his always seemed pretty high.
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 10:06:06
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sharke http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21034942 It never reins...neigh, it pours! It's all a part of a conspiracy that the Royals are all innocent and don't know nothing! When it comes to money, a lot of morals go away ... specially in the old days of robbing South Africa and many other countries!
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Re:Horsemeat found in beef burgers on sale in UK and Ireland
2013/01/16 10:23:15
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I just checked in the freezer for the Tesco's burgers i bought the other day... "....annnnnnnnd they're off".
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