arimalan
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How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
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Sanderxpander
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 08:53:17
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Not sure what you mean by "vocal chops", can you clarify?
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 09:50:11
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Like Carnegie Hall - practice practice practice. ;-) As above, not really sure what you mean. Sound Forge is a better piece of software for chopping up anything if you mean cutting into separate, useable, savable pieces. If you are talking about editing various vocal takes into a contiguous take, look up "comping" - there is a late video from Cake about that and various Forum topics.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 09:55:56
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I haven't used Sound Forge but if cutting up a vocal part is the aim I find it hard to imagine anything I couldn't do quite easily with Sonar. All you need is split, fades and maybe bounce to clip, right? Can you elaborate what the advantage is of Sound Forge in this respect?
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arimalan
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 10:21:01
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 10:31:59
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Right, in that case you'd simply chop/cut whichever bit of vocal recording or sample you want to use and drag it into one of the included sample based synths like Dimension Pro or DropZone or any other sampler you may have.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 11:09:17
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You can also do partial clip drags to the Matrix View.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 11:20:53
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IF you are chopping up takes to use as samples or drops in a song, it is easier to chop, effect and save them as separate samples. Hit save as and find the folder. I've never really worked in SONAR to do such tasks since it SEEMS easier in SF - but then I learned on SF. For me it just gets confusing since bounces etc. have disappeared within SONAR's folders. Where do bounces go and what are the names of frozen files? SF conforms to the Windows save file format and I can put every file in the exact folder I want them in without hacking the registry or changing any settings in SONAR itself. And if I decide to add another FX to an already effected sound in Sonar's timeline, in SF I just add said effect to the sample file up on screen, rather than having to figure out how to import the effected sound file or add a new effect to an already frozen track. Half the time I forget what I wanted to do by the time I have the version of the sample and have figured out how to add another effect to it. Maybe SONAR needs a "refreeze" command? ;-) In SF, I just add the effect, render and save as with a new name ("reverbed sound X FXed") rather than digging through the pile of SONAR-named sound files in the Song/Audio/folder. I'm sure there are easier ways to work in SONAR but not as cleanly as in SF. For me, I work on a song in SONAR. I work on a sound in Sound Forge. I also master (including topping and tailing, etc.) in SF. That way I can keep everything straight in my tiny little reptile brain. @
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arimalan
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 11:31:44
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Ok. THanks. Will Try Out With WHatEver Synths Sonar Pro Come With
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 13:44:25
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If referring to "stutter," there is a VST by iZotope called Stutter Edit that goes on sale quite regularly anymore.
Stutter is its most obvious function, but it is an EDM "bag of tricks" that can be manipulated at will. Chopping manually can be tedious and must be redone if altered drastically.
Definitely demo it if interested, and be sure to read the manual on how to set it up (it requires a very specific setup).
While manual editing is certainly possible, it doesn't allow for quick adjustments that are grossly different from "what is."
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 14:08:01
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You can use melodyne for this. Just cut the piece that you want to use out of a vocal and convert that part to a melodyne region. Inside melodyne you can make the pitchdrift and modulation flat, if you like, and dublicate that part to create a melody. Another way is to load that sample, as I described above, into a sampler that supports timestretching (e.g. kontakt, falcon, etc) and play it with the keyboard.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 15:05:18
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Sanderxpander Right, in that case you'd simply chop/cut whichever bit of vocal recording or sample you want to use and drag it into one of the included sample based synths like Dimension Pro or DropZone or any other sampler you may have.
He's upgrading to SONAR Pro which only comes with Dimension Le and Rapture Le. Do these cut down version support the drag & drop function? Just curious.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 15:09:33
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☄ Helpfulby cwestmont 2017/10/19 02:55:59
Anderton You can also do partial clip drags to the Matrix View.
This. You can highlight sections of a clip and drag partial clip selections into cells in Matrix. Then trigger the cells with pads or keys. Matrix view enhancements Drag partial clip selection to cellsIn addition to entire clips, you can also drag partial clip selection’s from the Clips pane to the Matrix. Plus, I discovered that you can also drag a partial clip selection directly onto Dropzone or Dimension Pro, or probably any other sampler you may have, without even using the Matrix. I tried it with TX16WX and Structure, which worked fine. You can also drag a partial selection out of a clip and drop it as a new clip or track, but that is destructive to the original clip unless you ctrl-drag (copy). Very cool! I now have the phrase "dearly beloved" from Prince's "Let's Go Crazy" mapped all over my keyboard ...
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liinnerd
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 15:28:55
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According to the website Melodyne is also included with Sonar Pro. I thought the chop needed to be pitched without changing the speed. But after listening again to the youtube example this isn't the case, so the easiest way is indeed to use Dropzone or Dimension pro. I do think however, that you can be far more creative by using melodyne and change the formants per note, etc. BTW: You can also get a similar effect by using the picth envelope in the loop construction.
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Sanderxpander
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 16:19:56
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Bristol_Jonesey
Sanderxpander Right, in that case you'd simply chop/cut whichever bit of vocal recording or sample you want to use and drag it into one of the included sample based synths like Dimension Pro or DropZone or any other sampler you may have.
He's upgrading to SONAR Pro which only comes with Dimension Le and Rapture Le. Do these cut down version support the drag & drop function? Just curious.
I honestly don't know. Is DropZone also not included? You could still use a free third party VST sampler.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 16:54:37
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I skimmed through some forum search results and dblue's free (v1) Glitch plug-in is a popular recommendation. Get it at http://illformed.org I also found this tip from Scott. garrigus You could add the Stereo Compressor/Gate included with SONAR to the FX bin of the track. Set the Gate Mode to Manual. And then open/close the gate by automating the Manual Trigger parameter with an envelope. Set the Snap to Grid to the note resolution you want and then use the Draw (Square) tool to draw the envelope.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 18:44:41
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Bristol_Jonesey
Sanderxpander Right, in that case you'd simply chop/cut whichever bit of vocal recording or sample you want to use and drag it into one of the included sample based synths like Dimension Pro or DropZone or any other sampler you may have.
He's upgrading to SONAR Pro which only comes with Dimension Le and Rapture Le. Do these cut down version support the drag & drop function? Just curious.
Dropzone should still work. TX16Wx (64-bit) is a fine free full featured sampler as well. http://www.tx16wx.com/ Would you like to experience that sheer joy that comes from building your own sounds, recording your own samples and mangling them with near endless sound shaping possibilities? TX16Wx Software Sampler is a plug-in for the creative musician, inspired and modeled after the best hardware samplers with all the ease and new exiting features modern software brings. A multitimbral instrument that actually samples, and with a documented file format so you never will be locked in to a single instrument.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 19:35:13
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arimalan Vocal Chopping For EDM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7bH2m8Zm68
What I love about this video is someone using all of the built in stuff. There's a zillion ways to do this. Last week ADSR Sounds have 10 sample packs for $10 and one of them was chopped vocals. Sample packs are also an alternative. Personally I can't stand this new trend in EDM. I grew up in a generation where many thought Alvin and the Chipmunks were cute. Nothing like reliving another misery.
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Re: How Do I Do Vocal Chops On Sonar
2017/02/22 20:11:41
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It's sort of like how the Beach Boys copied the Beatles ...
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