haskins02
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How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
I would like to record streaming audio (from Internet or Windows Media Player) to X1. My sound card (Scarlett 8i6) gets the signal just fine, which shows on my Scarlett mix control as “DAW 1 & 2” and “Mix 1.” Also, I can hear the sound on my speakers and headphones connected to my 8i6. However, when I go to the input on an X1 audio track, I can’t find an option that will input the sound. My sound card input options include microphone, line, loop, and S/PFIF L inputs. If I select any of them, they don’t record any streaming audio. There must be a way. Thanks. Greg
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/21 22:17:04
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Typically I would say you have to route the output back into the soundcard, if your unit allows for that. (If not perhaps run the headphone to it?) Or try something like http://streamosaur.soft32.com/ a free streaming recorder, you can record to mp3 or wav files, then import them to Sonar for editing and processing.... good luck
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/21 22:20:45
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As far as I know the Scarlett has internal (as in within your PC) input channels that can take audio signals from other applications (such as a web browser or streaming feed) so you don't have to route anything externally. I think you just take those channels and route them into Sonar to their own tracks like you would any other external signal. You have to look at your Focusrite manual or help topics on that though because I don't have mine yet and can't tell yout he exact process. Here's a dude from Focusrite talking about it, he briefly discusses the internal channel grab stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD4CdkZSIhQ
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/21 22:56:30
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thomasabarnes
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/21 23:18:35
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Your Input called "Loop" sounds like the Input Return you need to use in SONAR as an input to record as you are looking to do. Read about the "Loop" input in your manual. Basically, to do what you want to do, all internally, your audio interface drivers need to support this capability. I record streaming audio using one of my audio interface's inputs called "Input Return." Using my audio interface's control panel I can assign any output pair to this Input Return. And in SONAR I select the Input Return as a track's input to record. Make sure in SONAR settings, "Share drivers with other programs" is selected. For example, I can record streaming audio from Youtube, as I have the youtube selection playing: I set analog 1/2 as the Windows default playback device, then (in my audio interface's control panel) I assign analog 1/2 output as the Input Return. In SONAR, I select Input return as a track's input, Arm the track (and I see the signal on the track's meter,) click the Input Echo button to turn input echo on (and I hear the signal.) Start recording in SONAR and it's recorded. The only thing to remember is to not select the same stereo pair as a track's output and input, or you get a feedback loop. So, in the example above, I would select as the track's output any stereo pair except analog 1/2. If your audio interface doesn't have a Input Return, SixFinger pointed out alternative ways to do what you want to do. Hope this helps.
post edited by thomasabarnes - 2012/05/21 23:40:03
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/21 23:36:01
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I'm not OP but this is brilliant. Bookmarked! Nice stuff guys. Thanks so much.
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haskins02
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/22 12:19:26
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Thanks for all your input. I don't have time to try these things out now, but will later and let you know. Again, thanks for your support! Greg
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/22 12:20:00
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As Beepster mentioned, the 8i6 has a pair of inputs called "loopback". These are for capturing sounds from other programs in your computer. In order for this to work, you have to route DAW 1/2 to Loopback 1/2 in Scarlett MixControl. You do need to be careful with the routing here as DAW 1/2 is probably where you have Sonar's output routed as well. If you are just trying to capture without hearing the rest of your session, solo and mute the track you are recording to. This will save you the hassle of rerouting your session. If you need to hear the session while using loopback, change all of your outputs in Sonar to 3/4. Sonar's output will then come up on DAW 3/4 in MixControl. I hope this helps. Also, to answer Beepster's question about the 18i6 not having loopback: The 18i6 does not have loopback because 2 more channels would have exceeded the channel count that it's internal processing is capable of handling.
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Beepster
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/22 16:03:34
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Thanks for the explanation, Matt. I figured it might be something like that. I'm sure I can find a workaround. I put a ticket in on your site about the 18i6 yesterday. Just double checking that the box and plugins will indeed be compatible with my system. As soon as I get the greenlight on that stuff I'm buying it. Cheers.
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haskins02
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/24 14:24:28
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Thanks to your help, I am now able to record streaming audio just fine. FYI: I wrote down the following instructions in my "X1 Manual". Others may mind it useful too. -Greg Per Scarlett instructions, the “loopback” feature allows you to record streaming audio, but it does not tell you exactly how to do it. The only place where I see you can make a “loopback” selection is on the Scarlett mix control, far right two “copy mix to” channels By default, the two “copy mix to” channels have the following items checked (click the top box “Many…” (for many selections): · Left channel: “Mon 1”, “Line H/P L” · Right channel: “Mon 2, “Line H/P R” To record streaming audio: 1. Click the top box of the first (left) “copy mix to” channel, also select “Loop.1” (now 3 items are checked): “Mon 1”, “Line H/P L”, “Loop.1” 2. Click the top box of the second (right) “copy mix to” channel, also select “Loop.2” (now 3 items are checked): “Mon 2, “Line H/P R” , “Loop.2” [Note: I don’t think Loop 2 is needed because I cannot find a Loop 2 input option on any audio track, but I checked it anyway.] 3. On the X1 audio track that will record the streaming audio, on the track input, select : “Select Track Input Series” > “Stereo Focusrite USB 2.0 Audio Drive Loop 1” 4. Be sure volumes of on the Windows Media Player, the computer output (lower right icon), and website player (e.g. Youtube) are all set to maximum. 5. Mute Metronome track. 6. Arm track, begin recording, then start streaming audio. 7. After recording streaming audio, unselect Loop 1 and Loop 2 from the “copy mix to” channels
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thomasabarnes
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Re:How Do You Record Streaming Audio to X1?
2012/05/24 15:14:31
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haskins02: Good to hear you figured this out! And it's good you posted the solution, as other Focurite users may find this helpful, indeed. :) Way to go, man! Cya around.
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