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2017/11/04 18:58:10 (permalink)

How Do You Record?

I don't use a lot of midi. Mostly AD2 and it's where I do 99% of my midi recordings. The rest are basically performances from start to finish. I almost always have the written figured out and/or learned before I push any record buttons. It's do bass rhythm guitars keys leads all the way thru and go with that. This is apparent after listening to what I have posted but I'm not selling anything or impressing anyone. Just having fun! I'm thinking about doing some midi stuff but I figure I'll get a few comments before my next project. 

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 00:47:24 (permalink)
I must be not wording the question right 
 
 

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 00:54:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2017/11/05 01:52:39
I generally try to just plop my tiny little blapples on the desk and give 'er.
 
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 05:59:17 (permalink)
Hiya Bill ,
 
I shouldn't even be in here... By that I mean, the stuff that I do is quite removed from what would be considered to be "normal music."
 
Anyway, in answer to your question, I, personally, use more MIDI than the recording of sound sources. I use a lot of VST instruments and can do a lot of stuff "in the box." Sometimes I will use my mouse to place notes in piano roll and sometimes I will record via one of my keyboards.
 
But I also have a few hardware synths, plus a couple of guitars, so I do have to break into recording audio from time to time, and mostly I DI stuff, even my guitars.
 
Another way I am so opposite to you is I never flesh anything out before opening SONAR... I do all my "creating" in there. I'm more of a "sounds" person, so don't sing or use any kind of lyrics so that's one aspect that I don't have to worry about.
 
Takes all sorts to make a world, as the saying goes!
 
And, yeah, it's all about having fun
 
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 07:11:24 (permalink)
Hi Bill. I hope you are well.
I use mostly midi as I play keyboards.
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 08:14:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/11/05 17:31:06
1. Create track
2. Set track Input source
3. Arm track
4. Click Record button
5. Record
 
Or did I miss the point again?!
 
 
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 09:10:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2017/11/05 09:24:41
10 minutes recording, 10 hours processing

just a sec

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 09:25:01 (permalink)
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10 minutes recording, 10 hours processing




Oh yes! Absolutely haha!

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 10:34:17 (permalink)
Like most who use Hardware and Software synths a lot is MIDI, though any guitars, including Bass, I record either DI'd into amp sims or I record one of my small combo amps with one or two of the microphones I have on hand.  Some percussion also gets recorded that way.

As to how I achieve it depends on what sound or objective I am trying to arrive at. Block pad sounds sometimes it is quicker to place the notes with a mouse, sometimes to record.  Lead and melody lines are usually played and then tidied because the fur gets caught in the keys.

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 11:15:07 (permalink)
Mostly I try to have the piece roughly worked out over a simple drum pattern before I start working in earnest. I find if I start recording before I've got the sections properly worked out, the track goes nowhere. Then I'll begin choosing what I think are the right guitar tones for the piece - that can change several times, because the tone determines how and what I play.
 
The track I'm working on now started with 3 lead guitar motifs/riffs so I've laid those out roughly and now I'm working out the rhythm guitar parts. Once that's sounding right I'll re-do the lead guitar to suit. Then it's either dig in to AD2 for the drum track, or (hopefully on this one anyway) send it off for a live drummer to work on. Oh, and provide Ed with tracking shell and a mix as a WAV for him to do his bass.
 
Then it's faders to 0 and start mixing, ignoring emails asking me if it's done yet

 
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 13:57:45 (permalink)
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but I'm not selling anything or impressing anyone.


Omg me either!

I try not to work on projects more than necessary. I don't like becoming tempo locked. By this, I am talking about always practicing a piece at a single machined tempo. So, I record pieces I'm practicing freshly every couple of weeks to get fresh attacks and I always shift the tempo by a few.

I love midi drum tracks for stretching my rhythmic chops. That said, once I have a rhythm audio track, the likelihood if me dropping the original drum track leaps.

I try not to practice hard on a take where I drop a beat, but I'm not overly strict here.

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but I'm not selling anything or impressing anyone.

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 15:56:00 (permalink)
 
Everything's MIDI with me and I don't plan anything. What I come up with depends on my mood at the time.

For traditional songs, ie not ambient, I listen to RealGuitar strum a chord progression that I inserted in PRV. I'll improvise a melody on top of that with a midi keyboard or just plunk the notes in with the mouse. After that I can spend hours trying out different sounds, chords and accompaniments. The end result doesn't sound anything like what I started with.

For ambient songs, I'll pick an arp patch then insert a really long note in PRV. As that plays I'll improvise something with a lead instrument. And then spend many hours trying out different things until it sounds like it's finished.  




 

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 16:16:46 (permalink)
Thanks everyone! This is so very interesting. I listen to more music on the forums than I do the radio and I have to tell you I like forum music much better. To me it's the fun of the process and just enjoying it.
 
Geoff - Great tune! I recorded my version of a  Miles Davis a while back. It was Autumn Leaves and I love the way he arranged the song. The tempo used fits  the song feel better to me
 AUTMN Leaves
 
 

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 16:31:46 (permalink)
Speaking of tempos and tempo lock some of the most fun I've had is so very slightly extending or shortening the down beat in a phrase as a feel thing. Just enough not to be a mistake but enough to influence the feel. Some suggest I fire my drummers but the drummer was me being me. It makes the music more interesting and have it's own personality. Not sound like everything else ... like the radio music now.  I Am sounding my Grandfather  

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 17:17:22 (permalink)
I tend to get a rhythm, bass line, and melody lines in my head more or less all at once. Elapsed time= two minutes.
 
When I can get to the computer, I will plink up a working version of the parts, just slam things in, not too careful about editing or perfection. Then I'll make an mp3 of that. Time elapsed = about 45 minutes.
 
Then I will listen to that mp3 about 1,000 times. Not an exaggeration. I will add other parts in my head, and probably here come the lyrics as well. Time elapsed = 6 months.
 
Finally, I redo the computer tracks, make several iterations with improvements. "Improvements."  I'll take version 1.0 up to version 17.0 or so. Time elapsed = several years.
 
At this rate I can put up maybe two songs a year on the Songs forum! Yea!!! But hey life happens and that's why there are those burners on the back.
 
I've got a killer song about George W Bush that is only 12 years old at the moment. Boy, wait until that one drops! Most likely, I will first.
 
cheers,
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 17:34:18 (permalink)
emeraldsoul
 
I've got a killer song about George W Bush that is only 12 years old at the moment. 
 
cheers,
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Marcus Clinus will not like that one on lyric principle alone.
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 18:23:37 (permalink)
@bayoubill
 
I was totally expecting that recording to be you (your youtube link). I listened to it to the end though. I love Miles too.
 
Another thing I do sometimes is video record myself doing a take, like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMd0zif9RFE
 
It gives the solo at home thing a performance like feel when you're doing it. I'm really only doing this to submit my takes to a class I take through http://ArtistWorks.com, but that's cool. It's still kinda helpful.
 
Interestingly, this video has the audio a little ahead of the video. I think I faded the the clip before exporting. That's the only reason I can think of... Maybe Sonar just cut the faded part, shortening the audio and moving it earlier? Idk. I've seen stuff like this with video exports from Sonar before. 

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 18:55:36 (permalink)
oh, ok well here's a link to my version of Autumn Leaves which is my version of the Miles' version 
 
 
 

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 18:55:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby eph221 2017/11/07 18:56:56
Oops double post
 
click the play button on the link above to play my version of miles' version of Autumn Leaves

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 21:55:37 (permalink)
The DAW is my "canvas" and practically all of my instruments are virtual.
 
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/05 22:57:08 (permalink)
Super cool take on the tune. Thanks for sharing!

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/06 03:32:15 (permalink)
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emeraldsoul
 
I've got a killer song about George W Bush that is only 12 years old at the moment. 
 
cheers,
-Tom
 

Marcus Clinus will not like that one on lyric principle alone.




Yes, among the myriad reasons to ignore my songs, that is one.
 
And to clarify, it's the song that is 12, not W.   :)
 
 

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Re: How Do You Record? 2017/11/07 06:31:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2017/11/07 18:45:30
I use the daw to sketch out ideas, sort of like staff paper (but it's hella easier this way).

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