How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch:

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How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch:



It is on Netflix:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ry_of_Film:_An_Odyssey


I watched the first episode last night and it was most excellent. It has expanded on my knowledge of old film and I am thankful to actually feel eager to watch more. It refreshed my optimism that video can be a medium that educates and illuminates. 

It reminded me that visual story telling is still a powerful medium and it encouraged me to think that viewers continue to connect with the artful synchronization of picture and sound.



If you have any interest in "film" this seems like a must see video.

One thing I especially enjoy about it is that it surveys the history of film with an wide ranging international perspective. It's especially informative to learn about the many small pockets of film making excellence that may have been obscured by the larger distribution systems.

Good stuff.


Anyways, I'm hoping baps will buy Mosh a plane ticket and we will all sit around drinking apple juice and watching the whole thing start to finish. Or something like that.



best regards,
mike



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    Jonbouy
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/01 11:56:45 (permalink)
    Sounds like you're already on the same couch as Mosh...
     
    The difficult bit is likely to be getting anyone else to join you...
     
    ;-)
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/01 12:07:22 (permalink)
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    It reminded me that visual story telling is still a powerful medium and it encouraged me to think that viewers continue to connect with the artful synchronization of picture and sound.




    I hadn't realized that was in any doubt. 


    For further (albeit shorter) viewing I can highly recommend Mark Gatiss' 'Horror Europa', a history of horror films from the silent era to present day. The section on German Expressionist cinema is fascinating.

     
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/01 12:38:19 (permalink)
    Jonbouy


    Sounds like you're already on the same couch as Mosh...
     
    The difficult bit is likely to be getting anyone else to join you...
     
    ;-)

    Yeah I think bapu has me on ignore or sumthin.




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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/01 13:49:11 (permalink)
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    Jonbouy


    Sounds like you're already on the same couch as Mosh...

    The difficult bit is likely to be getting anyone else to join you...

    ;-)

    Yeah I think bapu has me on ignore or sumthin.




    :-)


    Maybe it's payback for giving him that brussel sprout flavored popcorn last time?

     
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/01 14:19:28 (permalink)
    Last night homage to fine cinema was watching Commando Cody from 1952 and some vintage Dr. Who. Happy days.

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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/01 15:01:52 (permalink)
    Yer not on ignore McQ. I've been in an out briefly here over the last 5 days. Busy holiday celebrations.
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/01 15:52:46 (permalink)
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    mike_mccue



    It reminded me that visual story telling is still a powerful medium and it encouraged me to think that viewers continue to connect with the artful synchronization of picture and sound.




    I hadn't realized that was in any doubt. 


    For further (albeit shorter) viewing I can highly recommend Mark Gatiss' 'Horror Europa', a history of horror films from the silent era to present day. The section on German Expressionist cinema is fascinating.

     
    I watched that too mate. T'was very interesting.
     
     

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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/01 20:45:30 (permalink)
    Hi,
     
    Thx Mike ... that is very nice indeed and a wonderful Christmas and New Year cheer for me!
     
    I don't crave "social interaction" or "camaraderie" per se, mostly because my background has been nothing but the arts, and this is something very difficult to discuss and work with people that were brought up on television, and radio, most of which was considered quite inferior to most of that work for a long time.
     
    Since the mid 70's with the advent of Cable, and the likes of HBO and such, this has changed. Championed by the BBC, a lot of work is being done that also rivals the film history ... and is not spoken of much. Today, a lot of work in the cable side of things is vastly superior, historically speaking, to the top ten films of the year.
     
    All in all, there are some films that will give you some history ... that is of the far out and cool kind ... you must get and see "Visions of Light", because it defines how some films ended up having the feel that they had ... and pay attention to it, because some cinematographers, are the real thing ... and the folks that make the film come alive ... and then there are the strange parts ... and the color stuff around Bertolucci will give you a great giggle ... (make sure you find out about the music on that film, too!).
     
    For me, "life" has been ... film first ... and it was my helper in learning English by watching the subtitles, only to realize later that American English has no grammer and that those subtitles are crap!  I could not speak enough English to get into film school and ended up doing theater, where I did very well, and majored in directing, with a minor in film. My directing on stage was "live film" and I was mixing contemporary work by Peter Brook and other experimentalists into the stage and the folks I was working with.
     
    During that time, I was collecting music (called imports then!) and I was using all this crazy stuff on the stage and blowing people away ... because the foreign/different stuff allowed me to use ... lots of color and sound on the stage ... to help illustrate the empty stage ... I refused to use "sets" ... and did way better without them, than anyone else ... !!!
     
    I lived the life of inspiration of the light and the camera, and still do ... I post it here EVERY DAY ...
     
    I probably have seen over 75% of those films in my time ... remember that for 15 years I depended on every French, Italian, Spanish, Mexican ... film you could think of ... and it was the time of Truffaut, Renoir, Malle, Fellini, Bunuel, Welles, Antonioni, Bertolucci, Roeg, Herzog, Wenders, Godard (my personal favorite and "anti-film" maker I mention all the time here!), and later Almodovar, and such. These have been my "guides" along with things like Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Amon Duul 2, and many other bands, who inspired me to no end! These bands were almost the same thing as those films and film makers ... they were not the "hollywood", or "bollywood" variety of entertainment ... they were "something else", completely different! ... and I always worked on answering that "why the difference"? ... and the only answer is ... it is who that person is!
     
    This is the reason, why things like my review of ITCOTCK is not appreciated ... it is a quotidian review, that ends by saying something else ... it's a complete snapshot of one man and his life ... by the name of Robert! Done in a perfectly well defined Joyce'an style ... and of course, most folks here have no idea what that means ... and that makes them feel I am snapping at them, when the only snap I could say is ... go read Joyce!
     
    It's hard, for me, as I am sure it is for Bapu to hear them, and vice versa, to make comments on music, when the backside of it is so far and away from his experience ... and he will say the same thing about me ... I have no idea about his own ... and it's true ... and something like film, or music ... can show how different people are, and how differently they see things. And because so many Americans are not quite versed on this history and the impression that film has made on the world ... it makes things harder. The world changed much more in EUROPE with the arts, than America EVER did. And you can go back to the flood of stuff and arts aimed at Russia in the cold war days ... even America was a part of it ... but it didn't mean much here ... and then you can listen to that Guru Guru song in the Tango Fango album, about getting the Germany's together again ... and you realize ... oh my ****ING gawd ... it is alive and well and clear in music too! The thurst of that song? ... Chuck Berry in the end ... as a wonderful symbol of the "new god" ... or the symbol of the "new music" complete with feedback! I can talk for years about that ... and everyone will not even read it! They can not relate to the history of it!
     
    And now ... lastly, Mike ... get the Tom Dowd DVD ... it has the best history of American music in the 50's and 60's that you will ever hear ... and it is fabulous ... history of the LP and music! That goes along with the film history so beautifully ... and its subtle ... you will catch it ... and go ... WOW ... you're kidding me ... and turn around take a walk ... wow ... I am not sure that some folks here, that even play professionally, realize where it came from ... other than you learning something because you liked it ... and there is always more!
    post edited by Moshkiae - 2013/01/01 21:05:04

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/02 08:41:36 (permalink)
    For further (albeit shorter) viewing I can highly recommend Mark Gatiss' 'Horror Europa', a history of horror films from the silent era to present day. The section on German Expressionist cinema is fascinating.

     
    All the theater work I did had sets that were almost all German Expressionist ... and no one could use the "blocks", and the lights, better than I did ... and you know what taught me to play with that? ... a book of large pictures, that had these insane photographs of the sets for many operas in Beiruth over the years ... those sets were far out ... unffortunately, those sets are not very good for Chuck Berry, but absolutely meticulous for Mother Sky, or Yeti!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/02 09:08:58 (permalink)


    Hi Mosh, 

    Happy New Year!

    best,
    mike


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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/02 09:43:24 (permalink)
    I'd love to see a stage play of Flann O' Brien's 'The Third Policeman' using Expressionist set design. That would be quite something.

     
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/02 15:55:27 (permalink)
    Hi,
     
    (very long and detailed!)
     
    Episode 1Introduction (Seen and discussed or reviewed)
    Saving Private Ryan (1998) dir. Steven Spielberg
    Three Colors: Blue (1993) dir. Krzysztof Kieślowski
    Casablanca (1942) dir. Michael Curtiz
    Odd Man Out (1947) dir. Carol Reed
    Two or Three Things I Know About Her (1967) dir. Jean-Luc Godard
    Taxi Driver (1976) dir. Martin Scorsese
    The French Connection (1971) dir. William Friedkin
     
    Comments:
    "Three Colors" (3 films!) is neat ... but not at all as satisfying as the absolutely stunning and well written film before this one ... "The Double Life of Veronique" ... and dig how the music is woven into this film. It helped make Mr. Preissner famous. Irene Jacob is Veronique. "Two or Three Things" is the quintessential Godard that drives American audiences crazy. Bapu will never see it, even ripped! He knows the "shots" and "images" that studios love to create to get you to think/feel more about situations that you do not even consider or try with your wife or significant other. And he takes the camera for a joy ride. You have the discussion by the two folks on bar stools, the camera behind them doing pendulum shots all the way to the end of the counter -- behind the two folks -- the whole time still hearing their conversation, but the camera now is pretty much asking you to ... what's over there? ... anything  ... ohh wait ... wow ... look at that ... and you "forget" about the story and those two until the pendulum comes back this way ... it's insane. And magnificent at the same time. But a very "distracting" thing that drives folks crazy. America, being so TV driven, where the shot/cross-shot is the norm, even if the conversation is not "direct" ... hates this, and mostly, can not handle the distraction ... not used to "literature" and "something" else ... that makes you think about ... hmmm ... movies ... where do they fit in my life? ... and this is something Hollywood, or Bollywood, do not want you to feel/know, or their fluff and beatoffs get wasted! Scorsese and Friedkin, are not "major" compared to others, and neither is Spielberg. But they are excellent story tellers and very clean and fairly good film makers. They deserve their accolades, but I would rather take a Godard, or a Bunuel ... because they created a "language" ... whereas these just made the Hollywood story stronger and more vivid than ever.
     
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    1895-1918: The World Discovers A New Artform
    Workers Leaving the Lumière Factory (1895) dir. Louis Lumière
    Cendrillon (1899) dir. Georges Méliès
    La lune à un mètre (1898) dir. Georges Méliès
    2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) dir. Stanley Kubrick
    The Sick Kitten (1903) dir. George Albert Smith
    October: Ten Days That Shook the World (1928) dir. Sergei Eisenstein
     
    There are some things here worth seeing ... when you check out Eisenstein, you can see the beginning of the handheld camera, more or less ... with the close ups and the camera making you feel like you are one of the folks. It scared a lot of people. With Kubrick's film, it created an immense visual treat for you to immerse yourself in ... but the effect of that film is not as good on the TV screen as it was in the Cinerama Dome. Today folks laugh at this, because the film is not a story like most top ten films. Lumiere is fun to catch ... and his burlesque thing is cute, but it is also quite sex'ist.
     
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    Thrill Becomes Story:
    Sherlock, Jr. (1924) dir. Buster Keaton
    Vivre sa vie (1962) dir. Jean-Luc Godard
    Those Awful Hats (1909) dir. D. W. Griffith
    The Mended Lute (1909) dir. D. W. Griffith
    Ingeborg Holm (1913) dir. Victor Sjöström
    The Phantom Carriage (1921) dir. Victor Sjöström
    Shanghai Express (1932) dir. Josef von Sternberg
    The Squaw Man (1914) dir. Oscar Apfel and Cecil B. DeMille
    Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) dir. Irvin Kershner
    Cabiria (1914) dir. Giovanni Pastrone
    Intolerance (1916) dir. D. W. Griffith
    Souls on the Road (aka Rojo No Reikan) (1921) dir. Minoru Murata
     
    Comments:
    Kinda scary to see Godard mentioned here in a category with a "story" ... for he is, by far, the film maker that cares the least about a story ... EVER ... and it is a part of what he calls "anti-film". I really think, specially with D. W. Griffith, that he thought that film should be bigger than life ... and he photographed it like it ... and it was one of those things that made film look more glamourous than it really was, not only in the make up sense, btw, but it made it look like it was ... and then, if you look at things in a "historical way", you can see how Europe tried hard to get rid of this idea and make films more "personal", which was another way of saying they did not have the money ... but at least the films were more "real", if not more difficult for us (here in America!) to accept, because we love our fantasies and heroes here! The Star Wars thing, I reserve judgement, and I have not quite enjoyed them ... like I have other things.
     
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    Episode 21918-1928: The Triumph of American Film...
    Citizen Kane (1941) dir. Orson Welles
    The Thief of Bagdad (1924) dir. Raoul Walsh
    Gone with the Wind (1939) dir. Victor Fleming
    Singin' in the Rain (1952) dir. Gene Kelly and Stanley Donen
    The Maltese Falcon (1941) dir. John Huston
    The Scarlet Empress (1934) dir. Josef von Sternberg
    Limelight (1952) dir. Charlie Chaplin
    City Lights (1931) dir. Charlie Chaplin
    The Kid (1921) dir. Charlie Chaplin
    Bad Timing (1980) dir. Nicolas Roeg
    Sunset Boulevard (1950) dir. Billy Wilder
    Some Like It Hot (1959) dir. Billy Wilder
    I Flunked, But... (1930) dir. Yasujirō Ozu
     
    Ozu is massive and major in history of Japanese film. BUT, not as important as Akira Kurosawa became later. Weird to see "spectacle" mentioned and his "Seven Samurai" is not listed ... his visual sense, makes that film even more of a spectacle than some of those listed here. Orson Welles, goes without saying ... but his film came at a time, when ... this guy was going against the fiber of society and government ... and it was a very strong ... STRONG ... indictment of the media, movies included ... and to this day, that film is strong and controversial ... because of the media control over the public.  Chaplin is Chaplin, and his politics are ... less of an issue ... but the films were terribly fun to watch. Roeg's film is an "artistic" painting ... done in the same style as the artist Kempf that he shows in there ... it is a tapestry of a film happening consequently ... which make up the full story. It is a visual treat, and magnificent. Check out Nicholas' use of music in the film, which is one of his strongest points, and a continuation of his "music in film" work that helped define MTV, 10 years earlier when he was a part of "Performance". Billy Wilder ... I don't think is that important, but his films helped the world see/find a California that eventually became the center for the hippie era ... the only thing the films lacked was music, that Billy was not good with, and Hollywood would not show any of, unless it was from its stars! John Huston deserves some credit ... for being the strong individual he was and some very nice films. GWTW is over rated ... but caused a sensation because of its backshots that made their characters stand out of the set and bigger than the picture itself. I like to say about that film ... frankly, I don't give a damn! "Singing in the Rain" is fabulous ... and Gene Kelly was one of a kind. Between him and Fred Astaire they captured a whole generation as well, as The Beatles and Rolling Stones 10 years later!
     
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    ...And the First of its Rebels
    Blind Husbands (1919) dir. Erich von Stroheim
    The Apartment (1960) dir. Billy Wilder
    Aelita: Queen of Mars (1924) dir. Yakov Protazanov
    The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) dir. Carl Theodor Dreyer
    Vampyr (1932) dir. Carl Theodor Dreyer
    Vivre sa vie (1962) (introduced in Episode 1) dir. Jean-Luc Godard
      
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    Godard is a "rebel" all the way ... and still at it. Billy Wilder was not ... but the lady in that apartment was one for a long time, along with her brother. Carl T. Dreyer ... is not a rebel, but his visualization and lighting in that film, made her look bigger and more important, and also ... just like a Hollywood film ... but with a little story story thrown in! The lighting in this film helped define a lot of lighting for photography for the next 40 to 40 years! 
     
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    Episode 31918-1935: The Great Rebel Filmmakers Around the World
    Napoléon (1927) dir. Abel Gance
    The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) dir. Robert Wiene
    Metropolis (1927) dir. Fritz Lang
    Entr'acte (1924) dir. René Clair
    Un Chien Andalou (1929) dir. Luis Buñuel
    Blue Velvet (1986) dir. David Lynch
    L'Age d'Or (1930) dir. Luis Buñuel
    Battleship Potemkin (1925) dir. Sergei Eisenstein
     
    Comments:
    Abel Gance's biggest rebellion was that he decided that a film should be as real as life and last longer! And "Napoleon" is too big for 99.9% of us to ever sit through ... and I doubt that any of us has that much patience, including myself! Robert Wiene and Fritz Lang ushered in the style of the Beyruth Opera sets into film ... though missing the color. But the imagery they created had us worried and scared all the time, because we never saw life like that and kept thinking it was evil ... I wonder if they knew it was a sign of things to come, instead of anything else. The great rebels here, were, of course, Luis Bunuel, who is one of the main names in "surrealism". I seriously doubt that "surrealism", as an art, would have taken hold, without his film with Salvador Dali, that blew out the conception of what you could, or should, do with film, and Luis Bunuel was all over that idea until the end of his life, and the last film he made was ... you got it ... "Le Phantome de la Liberte" ... the phantom of liberty, and its start is ... a painting! ... it will blow you away and it was NOT the first time that he pulled that off, as his films created the image of Jesus of Nazareth laughing ("Nazarin") and the famous last supper in the film "Viridiana" ... and this guy was the son of very religious folks and was brought up in a monastery. A close friend of his, a Dominican Monk, always stated that he never felt that Luis was "testing" him ... he said in most cases, he could see how people got sidetracked from the real faith, and now could help them, instead of quoting blank this and that which might or might not make sense at the moment! Even surrealism can help religion! Do not go see "El" ... or some of the stronger films later ... this guy is as strong, if not stronger, than Godard, and pulls punches hard ... and his lines are deadly!
     
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    [edit] Episode 4The 1930s: The Great American Movie Genres...
    Frankenstein (1931) dir. James Whale
    Eyes Without a Face (1960) dir. Georges Franju
    Scarface (1932) dir. Howard Hawks and Richard Rosson
    Seven Samurai (1954) dir. Akira Kurosawa
    Walt Disney
     
    Comments:
    America, was, for the most part, just like "Bollywood" ... just a copy, and then a rehash of the same thing. Getting original work done was a hassle until the "independents" took hold in the late 80's ... and it hurt the development of film in America, unles you had an odd one out there ... like Frances Ford Coppola, but like him, some got hurt, like Michael Cimino. American media (see Citizen Kane) does not like things that don't agree with them, or their state of the money! This is the state of Hollywood and the films they make. Howard Hawks was very much in the middle of this and his "Scarface" was his way of rebelling against an institution that he could not break at all. "Frankenstein" (and "Dracula") were excellent, but American's never knew they were a part of a literary tradition ... and for America, that is ... a bad joke ... we only have Hollywood traditions and that means copies of the same cartoon hero. Some of them are better than the others, but all in all ... forget'able compared to the original. Walt Disney might be the exception, but the work was original and pretty, unless you wanna get into their wars with Warner Brothers ... and it is believed that Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny fights were simply ... about that! I don't think these copies are great and mostly they are not "film worthy" other than that they made more money than the originals ... because ... no one likes films with subtitles in America to see a foreign film!
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    ...And the Brilliance of European Film
    The Blood of a Poet (1931) dir. Jean Cocteau
    If.... (1968) dir. Lindsay Anderson
    Les Enfants du Paradis (1945) dir. Marcel Carné
    La Grande Illusion (1937) dir. Jean Renoir
    Two Men and a Wardrobe (1958) dir. Roman Polanski
    The 39 Steps (1935) dir. Alfred Hitchcock
    The Wizard of Oz (1939) dir. Victor Fleming
    Gone with the Wind (1939) (introduced in Episode 2) dir. Victor Fleming
     
    Comments:
    Jean Vigo andmarcel Carne are a part of the French history of film, as literature. Jean Renoir also fits there, specially as he is quite detailed and clear/clean about the story. Jean Cocteau, was about the same thing as Luis Bunuel, but done with a more literary aspect to it, rather than the personal and dream like weirdness that Luis Bunuel puts forth. I like Jean Cocteau, but even his work is sometimes really hard to take ... he reads better than his film or theater. Alfred Hitchcock, is film history ... but not really for only one thing, and I don't think it was his directing ... he is not that good a director, but he knew how to scare you a bit more by surprising you ... and that camera would snap that shot when you least expected .. he was the bad kid with a camera in his hands, that you always pointed at, and told him to take that thing outta here! There was one thing that MADE his films, and if you ever take out this part, the films fall apart ... which tells you that he decided to work some of the fottage to fit it! One of these days ... try this exercise, so you can see the power of the many different things that make "film" work. Alfred knew that the music was excellent, and he made it work with it and for it. it became an excellent combination, but if you take the music out, the visuals do not come off as good, and actually look to be indulgent ... if you take the visual out (buy the CD) the music stands up magnificently without it! Victor Fleming is not the kind of film maker I enjoy, and I attribute this to the fact that I was a son of WW2 and these fantasies did not work for me, or made any sense. I thought they were all about kids playing with make up ... so what? ... and I have never enjoyed them. GWTW has one thing ... that is unusual in it, which Victor Fleming may have been the one that put it there, and it was something that was downplayed for a long time, until it became very famous ... and the history of American Black Film (and Actors) is officially started, and this film was one of the first, though it used a stereotype, it made them visible. Inadvertantly, this film ends up mentioned on all compendium of American Black Film History.
       
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    [edit] Episode 51939-1952: The Devastation of War...And a New Movie Language
    Rome, Open City (1945) dir. Roberto Rossellini
    Chimes at Midnight (1965) dir. Orson Welles
    The Maltese Falcon (1941) (introduced in Episode 2) dir. John Huston
    Un Homme et une Femme (1966) dir. Claude Lelouch
    Raging Bull (1980) dir. Martin Scorsese
    Bicycle Thieves (1948) dir. Vittorio De Sica
    Double Indemnity (1944) dir. Billy Wilder
    The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) dir. Fritz Lang
    Bonnie and Clyde (1967) dir. Arthur Penn
    Blade Runner (1982) dir. Ridley Scott
    Titanic (1997) dir. James Cameron
    The Third Man (1949) dir. Carol Reed
     
    Comments:
    There is a lot here that is missing. Namely Polish film, and some Japanese film, both of which went on to describe the ravage of war in a way that had us hiding and scared ... but the atrocities still went on, and still do today. Roberto Rossellini's film is worth it, and is in every film 101 class as is "Citizen Kane". Orson Welles improbable mix of 3 or 4 Shakespeare plays to concentrate on one character only (Falstaff) is a magnificent film ... that few have seen, and even fewer will appreciate because it is not a true bard film, and it got pasted hard by academics that did not like the idea of a character being the same in more than one story! That alone is amazing, and the film is a lot of fun, and strange, and crazy and has some nice images. Claude Lelouch's film is one of those that closes with a magnanimous crash ... life is so good and such and all of a sudden it's over! Martin Scorsese's film is over rated, with the exception that the performances are excellent and Martin's use of his experience as a film maker of rock music (one of Woodstock's camera folks) is put to use in boxing, which makes it look better and more impressive than it really is in reality. "Bonnie and Clyde" set a standard for gore in film, that is still in vogue. "Blade Runner" is one of my favorite films of all time, and the one that describes me, more than anything else ... and Roy's tears in the end, is what ALL OF THIS is about for me! "Titanic" is a nice movie, but in the end, I would rather sit through "RAN" than a Hollywood film. Carol Reed's film is a part of Film 101 in any school.
     
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    [edit] Episode 61953-1957: The Swollen Story: World Cinema Bursting at the Seams
    Rebel Without a Cause (1955) dir. Nicholas Ray
    Pather Panchali (1955) dir. Satyajit Ray
    Devi (1960) dir. Satyajit Ray
    Ikiru (1952) dir. Akira Kurosawa
    Seven Samurai (1954) (introduced in Episode 4) dir. Akira Kurosawa
    Throne of Blood (1957) dir. Akira Kurosawa
    The Godfather (1972) dir. Francis Ford Coppola
    The Wild Bunch (1969) dir. Sam Peckinpah
    Los Olvidados (1950) dir. Luis Buñuel
    Fireworks (1947) dir. Kenneth Anger
    Scorpio Rising (1964) dir. Kenneth Anger
    On the Waterfront (1954) dir. Elia Kazan
    Lawrence of Arabia (1962) dir. David Lean
    ...And God Created Woman (1956) dir. Roger Vadim
    Satyajit Ray, put Hindu film on the map, where it was always considered just a 2nd rate copy of English B films with the left over equipment from Hammer Studios. And Ray made his stories and visuals stand out, and tell his domineering English folks at the time that their poop also stank and that spreading it around the streets of ________ was not cool! As such, these had an edge, that Ray hid really well, and when he got international acclaim, it was almost at the same time that India said goodbye to the Western Imperialist. It was a sign of their "identity" taking hold on its own. Akira Kurosawa speaks for himself, and was an extremelly independent film maker for most Japanese standards and his films are always unusual and different, while Ozu's were more operated by the studios themselves. By the 60's Akira Kurosawa had real issues with financing for his films and he started depending on European and American money to do his films. His greates benefactors? Luis Bunuel, Jean Luc Godard and Jean -Claude Carriere, who wrote a lot of things for many folks, including the "Mahabharatta" for Peter Brook. And when Akira made a million or two on a film ... the Japanese folks got mad at him, and he laughed in their faces ... the shogun were still jerks! Francis Ford Coppola deserves the accolades as major film maker ... although I think that "Apocalypse Now" is far more worthy of mention than "The Godfather", and his "Dracula" brought out the sexuality inherant in the stories, that only Ann Rice in her 2nd life and name writes about.  "The Godfather" is all about acting ... not a film. It's a directing and acting class for the masters! ... and thus its appreciation! Sam Peckinpah, took violence to another level ... the slo-motion kind! And "The Wild Bunch" is one of the best westerns ever made, because for once, none of the characters were heroes finding injums and such ... they were normal folks like all of us! And we all believed in something or other, and went after it! Luis Bunuel, has already been mentioned and "Los Olvidados" is one of those films that you see in Film School, and come out saying ... I hate that! ... and forget about it. But it is a "small film" in the middle of the filth in Mexico City ... that brings out a side ... that depends on you and your inner person. Good luck on that one! Kenneth Anger ... is very tough to discuss on a "popular board". Elia Kazan, tried to duplicate his success on the stage with the Actor's Stuido folks on film, and it never worked because television fancy crap and comedy was a lot more fun than Tennessee Williams and William Inge and Arthur Miller ... whose work many of us can't stand! American TV is not capable for showing Blance, unless she is nude, so the folks in the audience get tittilated! Defeats the purpose of the work, and its beauty! David Lean, is magnificently vivid and lucid and visual ... and two of his closest friends and admirers were just as much a part of these films ... a cinematographer and a music composer. Somehow these films don't look as good without Conrad Hall or Maurice Jarre ... but we still hum Lara's Theme, and we still remember the desert! Roger Vadim, was ... just about threesomes and sex in general, and I don't think that he was important, although he was the first that gave you Brigitte Bardot's breasts! And everyone went to see the movie!
     
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    Episode 71957-1964: The Shock of the New - Modern Filmmaking in Western Europe.
    The Seventh Seal (1957) dir. Ingmar Bergman
    Nights of Cabiria (1957) dir. Federico Fellini
    8½ (1963) dir. Federico Fellini
    The 400 Blows (1959) dir. François Truffaut
    À bout de souffle (1959) dir. Jean-Luc Godard
    Accattone (1961) dir. Pier Paolo Pasolini
    The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964) dir. Pier Paolo Pasolini
    Rocco and His Brothers (1960) dir. Luchino Visconti
    L'eclisse (1962) dir. Michelangelo Antonioni
    Viridiana (1961) dir. Luis Buñuel
    I Am Curious (Yellow) (1967) dir. Vilgot Sjöman
    Knife in the Water (1962) dir. Roman Polanski
    Andrei Rublev (1966) dir. Andrei Tarkovsky
    In the Realm of the Senses (1976) dir. Nagisa Oshima
    A Hard Day's Night (1964) dir. Richard Lester
    Blow Job (1963) dir. Andy Warhol
    Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966) dir. Mike Nichols
     
    Comments:
    Ingmar Bergman had nice stuff. However, none of it came alive when he did not have Sven Nykvist with him. Sven "made" his films come up with a charm that ... made them acceptable, and appreciated. In the hands of someone else, these might not have shined as much, and not noticed. Mostly, these films are about acting, and they tend to be slow, something that American audiences do not like or can handle, very well, and it always gets mentioned on the reviews at USA Today! Fellini, is the ultimate bad boy film maker. His introduction to "Intervista" is the quintessential man ... little boy is taking a pee in the river, and as the camera comes out some, you see a helicopter fly by in the distance carrying a statue of the madonna ... and yeah ... the boy is innocent and the viewers are the criminals ... and he let them have it when he "made it" and by the time you get to Fellini's Roma, you have to see the Papal Fashion Show to go crazy! You know he knows he has made it and doesn't care anymore ... but the little boy is still pulling the pop guns out and shooting ... and still taking a pee when he has to take a pee! Francois Truffaut, was a little more conservative than Godard, but he was known for letting his actors run a much all over .... and they always loved him, because they could "continue" scenes, when ... they were needed to continue according to the actors. Jeanne Moreau came from there, and one of the greatest moments that you can see of her is with James Lipton in his series ... absolutely brilliant! Michelangelo Antonioni is tough to discuss, but his "reality" style was hard to appreciate as it had a tendency to make you feel like you were in the middle of it. Vilgot Sjoman, put nakedness and actual folks having sex on the screen and in various places, where before a lot of the "sex'y" stuff was just teasing, and peep'holery and mostly burlesque-like stuff as in American movies ... !!! Roman Polansky ... very hard and very harsh, and he developed a hand held style of camera that drives you nuts. Two examples (one in Visions of LIght): 1. The scene in Rosemary's Baby is almost one of the best examples how film/cinema has you so well indoctrinated ... and you fall for it every time! If you don't know the scene, you are punished with having to see "Visions of Light". The other is the rape scene in "Tess", and it is done with a handheld from the start ... guess what ... it's like YOU are the rapist ... the audience is the rapist! ... you can expand this quite far ... with our glut for these things! ... it's disconcerting to say the least, but his films are usually really well done and detailed and have value. If you want some fun, dig the grand ball room scene in the "Fearless Vampire Killers" ... not to mention the gay vampires! This same thing with the camera, has also been adapted by Gaspar Noe, who also uses the camera as the first-person ... and makes things really uncomfortable for the audience. He also uses sound effects to throw people off ... as the sound track can easily suplant the visual and surprise you.
     
    Tarkovsky's film is really slow, but it is trully pretty and done with a lot of care to detail and the work. Nagisa Oshima almost ("almost") a part of the "sexual" revolution in the late 60's and early 70's. The film is not that great ... but the conclusion is ... ok guys ... you have been warned! Richard Lester is not as great as he thought ... Spike Milligan in an interview almost cried, when he said that the Goons had been asking the BBC to film some things and they never spent a nickel on it ... and the end result was a movie with the Beatles that had all the things that The Goons did on radio in their sound effects, complete with speeding things up and slowing them down and such ... and when I went back to see that film after knowing the Goons, it was not funny, or that good ... in fact, it was just a cheap video, that made pop music be even more pop music, complete with screaming fans to help create a myth ... that the BBC folks screwed up on, and were too cheap and idiotic to invest in and on! However, these films only validate the English comedy scene in that time, that no one heard in America. Andy Warhol  ... film wise, he is not important, but a couple of his films are something that makes people go ... hmmm ... so he went out and filmed 2 folks sleeping for more than an hour ... and then showed it ... and of course, the NY critics thought it was brilliant, since even garbage on a platter looks good in there, right? You got the idea! Not valid as film per se in terms of its historical significance, other than an "artist" making fun of the medium! Mike Nichols ... made his fame bringing the hard drinking couples to the screen, and made Edward Albee famous, in what is one of the harshest and most nightmarish plays to direct on stage! But it was just perfect conclusion to the previously well known English version of the "Angry Young Men" ... that gave rise to so much theater and film!
     
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    [edit] Episode 91967-1979: New American Cinema.
    Mash (1970) dir. Robert Altman
    The Graduate (1967) dir. Mike Nichols
    One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) dir. Miloš Forman
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971) dir. Robert Altman
    Mean Streets (1973) dir. Martin Scorsese
    Annie Hall (1977) dir. Woody Allen
    City Lights (1931) dir. Charlie Chaplin
    The Last Picture Show (1971) dir. Peter Bogdanovich
    The Wild Bunch (1969) dir. Sam Peckinpah
    Cabaret (1972) dir. Bob Fosse
     
    This is a wonderful list of the strength of the American film, with the exception of Milos Forman who was not an American at the time, but he did most of his films here. "MASH" ended up becoming the TV series, and in many ways the TV series was better, but the original had some very good bits that we still remember. "The Graduate", was, and still is, a perfect vision of what things are in America ... still screwed up and we can not come to grips with our ideas and realities, and are suspect and prey to every thing you can think of, because of the lack of the desire to define, understand and process that knowledge ... education is meaningless as a valid tool to help you, because a Hollywood fun film is better for you! It is not a good representative of the old days, or the hippie days, but it makes that generation seem stupid and pathetic, and I do not appreciate that. Ken Kesey's story is a perfect and complete examle of American Literature at that time. He should have also filmed "On The Road". Robert Altman, is the originator of "MASH" above, and "McCabe and Mrs Miller" was a project that he took on because he was asked, and the project was already on its way before he came along ... and he made it look better and stronger, and the credit probably goes to Julie Christie for making the film come alive and work ... it wasn't perfect, but it was a great example of ... let's hack it ... Warren Beatty style, while having dinner, and sex in the evenings and wondering what they will film in the morning! Perfect example of Hollywood opulence and riches. But in the end, it worked ... but I think it was lucky that it did, and that Robert Altman was the reason why it worked, not Warren Beatty. Robert forced it to have something more than was originally being shown ... and what he brought to it was the unity of the various details that helped make a film, one film! Woody Allen is by far, one of the best and most innovative American Directors ... and he will only get his credit later. Because of the infatuation with fads and top ten, folks like Woody rarely get appreciated ... even in NY ... but he will not be forgotten ... and you know that behind these words a Greek Chorus is coming on ... and ... Bob Fosse, for me, was just an extention of the same old thing in America ... burlesque disguised in meaning ... !!! Because America will never see and watch Kurt Weill or Bertold Brecht, even on television! But we can handle the pastiches that make fun of those "serious" things!
     
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    Episode 101969-1979: Radical Directors in the 70s - Make State of the Nation Movies.
    Fox and His Friends (1975) (aka Faustrecht der Freiheit) dir. Rainer Werner Fassbinder
    Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (1974) (aka Angst essen Seele auf) dir. Rainer Werner Fassbinder
    Alice in the Cities (1974) (aka Alice in den Städten) dir. Wim Wenders
    Arabian Nights (1974) (aka Il fiore delle mille e una notte) dir. Pier Paolo Pasolini
    The Spider's Stratagem (1970) (aka Strategia del ragno) dir. Bernardo Bertolucci
    The Conformist (1970) (aka Il conformista) dir. Bernardo Bertolucci
    Taxi Driver (1976) (introduced in Episode 1) dir. Martin Scorsese
    Women in Love (1969) dir. Ken Russell
    Performance (1970) dir. Donald Cammell & Nicolas Roeg
    Walkabout (1971) dir. Nicolas Roeg
    Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975) dir. Peter Weir
    My Brilliant Career (1979) dir. Gillian Armstrong
     
    Comments: Rainer W. Fassbender was hard to appreciate in many ways ... it was living theater and the camera just happened to be turned on and catch this or that moment ... it was quite cinema verite ... so to speak and the actors lived or died with the camera on! Later Mike Leigh did the same thing in London.  Wim Wenders is a part of the group that brought us "krautrock" along with playwright Peter Handke, Werner Herzog, Klaus Kinski and many others. They "were" the revolution of the arts in Germany in the late 60's and early 70's and the amount of work, is still appreciated and loved today. Of all these, Amon Duul 2 is the only person/group that has not opened up and appreciated the compliments and discussions about their work, and so much of it is being wasted when they could so easily say hello to many of us ... but their music has always been independent, and totally unafraid, and totally "reckless" in the sense that they did not care what anyone thought ... but it gave those days the immense individuality that is also visible in theater and film. Pier Paolo Pasolini, did the unthinkable ... a version of the passion without actors and just picking up bums from the street ... and you will be damned ... because it is good and susprisingly clever. Bernardo Bertolucci is the one that everyone questions his politics and he turns around and does something non-political that everyone thinks is just a fun film ... but it gave him and his film more than one Oscar. Ken Russell started with famous artists' biographies in the BBC, and ultimately got onto film. He was known for his extravaganzas and one was always wondering where it would show ... his best film is the most insane orgy of them all ... "The Devils" from the novel by Aldous Huxley. "Performance" is one of the best films ever made, and one of the hardest to define and understand and work with ... they really should try to "restore" this film, because the use of music and the film style, became what MTV defined later. Nicholas Roeg was, originally a film maker for Joseph Losey, another English film maker known for his literary style of work. ... Peter Weir was the quieter version of Ken Russell, IF you did not see "The Cars that Ate Paris", or "The PLumber"! Gillian Armstrong is still around and making very personal and films that are very subtle and nice.
     
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    Episode 111970s and Onwards: Innovation in Popular Culture - Around the World.
    Enter the Dragon (1973) dir. Robert Clouse
    The Matrix (1999) dir. Andy Wachowski & Larry Wachowski
    Jaws (1975) dir. Steven Spielberg
    Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) dir. Steven Spielberg
    Jurassic Park (1993) dir. Steven Spielberg
     
    Comments:
    The "popular" thing is based on sales only ... and a film that did really well, and everyone thinks its good because "everyone" saw it. It does not mean they are good ... but they have some fun. "Enter the Dragon" was for the longest time the film that brought the martial arts to America ... and the glut of film since then ... never mind that Bruce Lee was in "The Green Hornet" and did the same things there! And no one saw it. "The Matrix" was an interesting film until the only thing left in it is a love story ... a concept wasted, but the illusion was cool!And the glasses made millions more for many opticians ... 30 cents worth of plastic for $120 dollars! Perfect economy! Just like the film, a rip-off! Steven Spielberg is not a great director ... for the most part he is just like a ride at Disneyland, or the old rides at Magic Mountain ... you took the dope, or the drink, and you screamed your way along while having some fun with your girlfriend! When he got serious he did some nice things, sometimes more emotionally important to this country's history than valid film making itself! While fun, Steven Spielberg is not a great film maker ... but with the budgets he gets, not making a very good film would be ... very bad!
      
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    [edit] Episode 12The 1980s: Moviemaking and Protest - Around the World.
    Yellow Earth (1985) dir. Chen Kaige
    Raise the Red Lantern (1991) dir. Zhang Yimou
    Top Gun (1986) dir. Tony Scott
    Blue Velvet (1986) dir. David Lynch
    A Zed & Two Noughts (1986) dir. Peter Greenaway
    Jesus of Montreal (1989) dir. Denys Arcand
     
    Chen Kaige's film is outstanding. It's vivid ness is close to David Lean's style. Zhang Yimou, relying on Gong Li in the early days, to whom he was married, was very methodical and the cinematography was very rigid and almost measured scientifically (my words) inch per inch. As time goes by and I think his budgets loosened up some, he became more interesting and his shooting style changed. It is totally different in "To Live" but he did something there that was interesting ... in the days of Mao, the camera was still. In the later days it was handheld! Peter Greenaway, is a very literate and difficult director to appreciate and enjoy. His films often defy description anywhere. His "Tempest" ("Prospero's Books") version is unreal, with Sir John Gielgud making those lines shine and make sense like it was the easiest child's play in your tongue! And then you catch "The Pillow Book" you get the characters mind (or thinking) running on the corner concurrently with the film, and that drives you nuts and throws you off ... but it is neat, far out ... and totally out there! It is film experimenting with what "is it really saying?" ... and in that sense spectacular because there are not many of us that can handle that insane stream of consciousness or unconsciousness. It's a massive overload ... but an insane one with magnificent music and visuals. Denys Arcand is the Canadian version of an opinionated director ... and some of his films are hard to catch on ... but this one is surprising, to the end, and then rips you and the audience a brand new one! The wording can be considered down right vicious complete with a priest abusing his position and then some!
     
    Enough for now ... not sure anyone will read this far!
    post edited by Moshkiae - 2013/01/06 16:58:09

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/02 15:57:55 (permalink)
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    Hi Mosh, 

    Happy New Year!

    best,
    mike


    Likewise ... may it be the best year for movies yet! ...

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Can someone summarize post #13 for me?
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    #13 = we're gonna need lots of Kettle Corn.








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    Can someone summarize post #13 for me?


    Something about Godzilla versus Mothra I think...

     
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    Whaddya mean "this far"?

    ;-)



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    Can someone summarize post #13 for me?


    Best post by Mosh evah!
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    In the meantime we should all go shopping to console ourselves" - Banksy
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    bapu


    Can someone summarize post #13 for me?


    Best post by Mosh evah!

    Ya, it kind of surprised me.
     
    (I had expected it to be long and detailed.)

     
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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/05 00:21:48 (permalink)
    craigb


    mike_mccue


    Jonbouy


    Sounds like you're already on the same couch as Mosh...

    The difficult bit is likely to be getting anyone else to join you...

    ;-)

    Yeah I think bapu has me on ignore or sumthin.




    :-)


    Maybe it's payback for giving him that brussel sprout flavored popcorn last time?

    Ohhh heck ... if it had cheese sauce over it ... you only had to use a fork ... not your fingers! Ohhh wait ... maybe you can't play the bass with cheese sauce in your hands ... would be kinda slippery and messy I bet. Wonder if it affects the notes!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    bapu


    Can someone summarize post #13 for me?


    Best post by Mosh evah!

    Thanks a whole bunch ... in some ways, being a film reviewer with over 500 "foreign and art films" to my credit and a good portion of those at the Internet Movie Database, has been my salvation for a long time, along with the music from many places. 


    It is insane, and hard to believe that I have seen so many films, and today's things just are not measuring up as far ... other than just some money making that keeps the funds away from lesser artists and folks that deserve it. It's the same thing in music ... for every million the Rolling Stones take home, there are at least 100 bands that suffered, and did not have a chance ... and when you consider that if you had a band and did that today ... without anyone "knowing" the Rolling Stones, every one would trash you and no one would show up!


    It's the same thing in film to a point, but Europe still ahs a good eye for experiments and individual film makers ... I am not exactly a Gaspar Noe fan, but his films would never get done in America ... specially "Je Suis Seul" (I stand alone), as they are quite vicious in attacking the social mold and government. But you come out of his film ... wondering about film ... and sometimes seeing a top ten film right after, makes it look really empty and fake, and boring!


    At the Portland International Film Festival, I have had a big hand in helping folks catch the foreign films with reviews and such, and I am one of the few that always tells people ... catch the films from nowhere land, since they will never be on DVD, or seen ever again ... it's their one and only chance.  You already know that all English and American films will end up in the stores for you!


    Music, now, is easier ... because you can catch it from the Internet ... but film still has serious distribution issues to get resolved, which I think will be the future for them ... since reaching the public via a theater, will likely come to an end ... sometime in the future.


    A lot of my ideas, are a mesh of literature work, film work, theater work and music ... the combination of which ... shows so many parallels, even if some are rather unusual.


    Happy New Year everyone ... and thanks again ... I'm still blushing and almost in tears for the compliment.

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    bapu


    Can someone summarize post #13 for me?


    Something about Godzilla versus Mothra I think...

    Worst movies ever made ... but fun to watch ... and Akira Kurosawa's biggest enemies ... and when he won the Oscar ... yeah ... it was the day that the majority of those films died!
     
    Let's see now ... no city has ever been destroyed so many times before like Tokyo!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    craigb


    Jonbouy


    bapu


    Can someone summarize post #13 for me?


    Best post by Mosh evah!

    Ya, it kind of surprised me.
     
    (I had expected it to be long and detailed.)


    While not trying to be mean, some folks do more than just one note ... ohhh excuse me ... one chord! And their work is more than a mere song!
    post edited by Moshkiae - 2013/01/05 11:21:26

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    Re:How I plan to get Mosh and Baps on the same couch: 2013/01/06 13:47:28 (permalink)
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    I'd love to see a stage play of Flann O' Brien's 'The Third Policeman' using Expressionist set design. That would be quite something.


    Pulling out the play to read it ... I'll see if I can visualize this ... but I was good taking Tennessee Williams off the living room, a la Joe Papp ... even he was conventional compared to me!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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