AdamGrossmanLG
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How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
So I am looking to basically double up parts... have 2 softsynths play the same MIDI notes - but I only want one MIDI track so if I edit a note, I don't have to edit it twice (1 for each synth).
I am wracking my brain out on how to achieve this.
Thank you!
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/28 16:01:31
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☄ Helpfulby terrybritton 2016/03/01 09:37:35
Hi. I do not know how to point a MIDI track to two synths, but. If you clone the track in question and check "link clips", you can edit one of the tracks and have it occur in the other track and vice versa. Hope it helps. All the best.
post edited by Zargg71 - 2016/02/28 16:16:29
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AdamGrossmanLG
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/28 20:44:10
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Zargg71
Hi. I do not know how to point a MIDI track to two synths, but. If you clone the track in question and check "link clips", you can edit one of the tracks and have it occur in the other track and vice versa. Hope it helps.
All the best.
ohh good thinking!!! thx for the tip!!
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AdamGrossmanLG
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/28 20:57:41
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Zargg71
Hi. I do not know how to point a MIDI track to two synths, but. If you clone the track in question and check "link clips", you can edit one of the tracks and have it occur in the other track and vice versa. Hope it helps.
All the best.
actually this still doesn't work for me, because I already have the track created, now I just want to link clips... too bad you can't link except for when cloning.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/28 21:40:08
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I believe you have to go out of Sonar and back in with a midi loopback. I just did this using loopBe, a virtual midi patchbay. One midi track with the midi clip sends its output to midi port 1 on loopBe. Then two other midi tracks take their input from this port, each with their own synth. Latency may be a problem. Sometimes it seems ok, sometimes not, but this may have to do with the samples I tried.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/29 00:21:14
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☄ Helpfulby SilverBlueMedallion 2016/02/29 07:49:07
You can link clips at any time. Copy the clip, choose Paste Special, and click "Link to Original Clip(s)." You can also specify this under drag and drop options.
Both clips will be surrounded by dotted lines to show they're linked.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/29 08:21:55
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Another option is to use a multi-timbral synth that allows you to stack patches, like Omnisphere or Kontakt. Either of these will allow you to map incoming midi into multiple patches.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/29 08:31:09
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The way to access clip linking via drag and drop options is track view Options > Drag and Drop Options. You can choose to link clips there.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/29 15:36:17
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I must be missing something. Why can't you set both synths to the same port and channel? Of course, this would mean not setting the patch, volume, or pan in the MIDI track.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/29 16:20:16
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I am curious to Konrad's point as well but wanted to test this, as I *thought* a synth with MIDI output enabled allows the data in the track to fire any synth listening to that channel with Input Echo enabled. Is that not true?
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/29 17:04:14
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How do you set a synth input? I'm only aware of pointing a track to a synth, not the other way around.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/02/29 17:04:59
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Every soft synth exposes one or more unique virtual MIDI IN ports to SONAR, and these ports are available to be assigned as the Output of a MIDI track. But the track Output can only be assigned to one synth's IN. So you have to have at least one MIDI track per synth. Multiple tracks can have their Inputs assigned to the same source, but each can output to only one destination.
If one of the synths can echo MIDI input to a virtual OUT, then you could use that to drive the second synth, but you would still need another track to route the MIDI. There's no way to assign the input of a synth directly to the output of another.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/04/14 18:43:43
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...and to think this was all so easy before the computer came along... (sigh)  
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/04/14 20:20:30
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...and to think this was all so easy before the computer came along... (sigh)
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/04/14 21:11:20
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soens
...and to think this was all so easy before the computer came along... (sigh)
I wonder how easy it would be for the bakers to implement a virtual MIDI THRU port (I remember the hardware versions of these in the late 80's) without having to use third party MIDI routing tools. Maybe they could implement some kind of MIDI send
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/04/14 21:31:50
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promidi
I wonder how easy it would be for the bakers to implement a virtual MIDI THRU port (I remember the hardware versions of these in the late 80's) without having to use third party MIDI routing tools.
Maybe they could implement some kind of MIDI send
Patch points and aux tracks work for audio, couldn't the same model be applied to MIDI routing? (oft mentioned as a feature request)
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/04/14 22:49:08
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How hard would it be to implement a midi track having multiple output options??
I've often had to clone a track just to double up.
It's not a big deal as this step is super easy and linking the tracks has always worked for me, but it would be nice to have the option of more than one output too.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/04/15 01:51:38
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It was hinted that at some later date patch points for MIDI data might be added. But it has never been confirmed/promised/committed to. Perhaps all of Cakewalk's development resources are being spent on yet another EQ and multi-band compressor.
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
2016/04/15 03:24:01
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Has anyone submitted a feature request for this, er, feature? 
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
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Midi thru just like keyboards - not a bad ideal, not a bad ideal at all...
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
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Has anyone submitted a feature request for this, er, feature?
This is why I made the Feature Request of MIDI-HUB / MIDI PATCH POINT http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3348419 But no one is listening  Regards Snehankur
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Re: How To Have 2 Synths Play From One MIDI Track
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Has anyone submitted a feature request for this, er, feature?
This is why I made the Feature Request of MIDI-HUB / MIDI PATCH POINT http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3348419 But no one is listening Regards Snehankur
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