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2017/02/08 09:28:26 (permalink)

How bout a tuner module for the strip?

I use a tuner vst in a bus and then have to remember to insert a track from a template that has the send for it or remember to add the send. I park off the beaten path on my SONAR desktop. I could quick add the tuner to the fx bin
but they then tend to proliferate and some house keeping is then needed.
 
This got me to thinking that a tuner module in the skylight strip that is always listening to the output would be real neat.
 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/08 10:41:55 (permalink)
I think I've brought this up before as well.
Expect the typical responses = Guitar rig has a built I tuner... or TH3 has a tuner.
put it in the feature request section so we can vote on it (leave a link)
 
I'd like to see one, great idea about the module too.

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/08 11:45:23 (permalink)
I don't know why I didn't think of just hanging a tuner off the master bus.
I did that now. Still would be nice to have a tuner in the strip
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 02:55:43 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby glennstanton 2017/05/08 13:10:47
in studio one i just have a separate track set up with just the studio one tuner in my default template and when i need to tune just hit the monitor button tune up then switch off the monitor button, i just leave the mini version of the tuner expanded/open which remains visible in the fx bin to save having to actually open the plugin (I like that ability with studio ones plugs, vu meter is sweet) it's not as big as the full open plugin of course, but quite usable, does the job and saves having to actually open the plug.
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 07:21:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Thedoccal 2017/05/08 02:34:26
Couldn't you just hang the tuner onto an aux track with no assigned output in your default template and send the signal to that from whichever track you require?

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 08:55:45 (permalink)
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Couldn't you just hang the tuner onto an aux track with no assigned output in your default template and send the signal to that from whichever track you require?



Yes, that would have a pretty simple clickstream (assign track output > tune > re-assign track output).
 
I use mostly guitars with G Force so tuning isn't as big a deal as it once was, but I have a tuner in the master bus for instant tuning. Assuming adequate signal level, the only limitations are:
 
  • If you want to tune while playing back other tracks, you need to solo the track with the instrument to be tuned.
  • If the track includes modulation- or time-based effects, you need to type E before tuning.
 
 

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 09:39:52 (permalink)
+ 1 for Tuner in Platinum request.
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 10:14:08 (permalink)
Cakewalk used to have tuner plugin with earlier versions of sonar. It may still be nested in there somewhere. I can understand the request and would use a built tuner from time to time. However, I prefer a snark type tuner. I like to tune outside of the production because of what has been mentioned above - effects and maybe a little latency from time to time interfering and typically have to stop the playback for others. Usually a little pre-tuning setup each time I check my tuning ITB. It just seems simpler for me to cut guitar volume and tune with a snark. Sorry for the drizzle of rain I'm bringing.

 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 12:48:35 (permalink)
I would not like to see any addition to the Control Bar that does digital signal processing and creates CPU overhead.  That's not the purpose of the Control Bar.
 
I personally use the MTuner plugin that is part of MeldaProduction's Free Plugin Bundle or use a Roland external tuner for non-amplified instruments.
 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 13:01:32 (permalink)
I understand your concern about cpu hit. It should be on unless the transport is running or if that's too automatic then an on off [x] in it's corner should suffice.
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 15:39:32 (permalink)
Once I bought a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner I've found I can't stand using other tuners.  
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 17:01:10 (permalink)
How hard would it be for Cakewalk to do something like this ?

 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/09 17:31:10 (permalink)
I always made use of the tuner in the audio interface software that accompanied my previous interface (Line6 UX2). I found this very convenient and I miss it now that I am using a different interface.

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/10 14:59:54 (permalink)
Tuning while using SONAR has been something that would slow me down all the time.  So, over the years, I added a strobe tuner to my rack and run the guitar signal chain (Hardware) to it so I have instant visuals for tuning.
 
If you have UAD, UAD has a tuner as well (a plugin), which I keep as the first plugin in all my UAD Console tracks.  Redundant I know, but I probably use the turner in the UAD console more ofter than the strobe tuner (Don't know why).  
 
Prior to all of this, I use to use the tuners that were in the AMP SIMs I use.  It would be cool if SONAR could come up with something even more convenient to my solution(s).

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/12 05:12:28 (permalink)
Folks , I'm not giving up on this topic .
 
I would like SONAR to have a built in tuner available and integrated on an Audio track with out me having to dial up a 3rd party amp sim just to use the tuner ....or something like G B which has a global tuner .
 
This request is not at all about me not having a guitar tuner ...please don't make me list them all ...
 
I have guitar tuners up the Kazoo ...
 
What I have are a bunch of juvenile delinquent guitars 
Oh Yeah BTW, that Includes my Gibson Historic Les Paul R 8 VOS
What these juvenile delinquent guitars like to do is play real nice and be on their best behavior most of the time and when ever it doesn't count ....they are fine for practice , jamming to tunes , noodling , learning new things to play ..ect ..ect..
 
The second the Red Light goes on and it is now time to record all bets are off 
All of a sudden every one of my Goody Two Shoe Guitars start acting up as a team trying to stick it too me ..
It becomes just like an episode of the Twilight Zone over here .
G strings start to go sharp , my low E string decides to go flat ..the C # on my 3rd string in my A chord on the 5 th fret decides to go Rambo on me and get micro tonal and evoke country's I've never been to ...
I kid you not ...I'm not making this $hit up ....
That's only the 6 string guitars ....the 7 and 8 string guitars ... whew, tuning those up are a whole other thang lol
 
Sure I could sit here and just use a tuner if I was only using one guitar...
Even using one guitar it's a pain in the a$$ to have to constantly go back and forth between the guitar , a hardware tuner and my tracking session in SONAR ...
It is very rare that I use only one guitar during a tracking session ..my usual is 3 to 5 guitars ....
It would sure save a lot of time for me if SONAR had an integrated global tuner or a tuner for each audio track ...
I wouldn't have to leave the SPlat GUI ...
It's either that or I could get a price quote on how much 29 G Forces would run me ....
 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/12 06:33:08 (permalink)
+1 for integrated instrument tuner...save me loading up Scuffham S-gear (my preferred choice).

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/02/12 08:27:09 (permalink)
Another +1 for Integrated Tuner! 

 
 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/06 20:56:49 (permalink)
+1 for an integrated tuner.

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/07 21:17:03 (permalink)
I used to just use the tuner built into guitar rig. It worked ok but required that I keep the guitar rig window open while recording to keep and eye on tune.
 
Then I picked up one of those $12 clip to the headstock gizmos to use when I was away from the computer. Don't know why, but I found that tuning was always quicker and more accurate with the clip-on than it was with guitar rig. Now I don't think I'd tune guitars any other way. 

That being said, if there were a tuner in pro channel, I would probably use it for things like tuning samples. 

 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/07 22:26:44 (permalink)
A tuner would be good. I'm not a guitar player but whenever I work with one they're always baffled that I have to open an amp sim just to tune up.

By the way what the hell is a "snark" tuner?? From the context it sounds like a stompbox?
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/07 22:51:48 (permalink)
TB Strobe Tuner is awesome and free! You can even create custom sweetened tunings if you'd like. Check it out!

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/07 23:07:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby glennstanton 2017/05/08 13:22:53
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By the way what the hell is a "snark" tuner?? From the context it sounds like a stompbox?



Headstock tuner. Cheap. Works great.
 


 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/07 23:53:50 (permalink)
I don't tune... I just use my amazing vibrato to get there man 😎
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/08 01:14:39 (permalink)
I just downloaded the TB StrobeTuner v2.21 through the link presented above.  Norton Antivirus declared it a network security risk and deleted it from my computer, without any prompting from me.  Not quite sure what that was all about.
 
For now, I'll go back to the Snark Headstock tuner I have.  It does fairly well.  I did install the MTuner.  It seems to be about 3-4 cent difference from my PlanetWaves Headstock tuner.  Stayed tuned as I test out the others I have and see which is a bit more accurate.  

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/08 01:23:08 (permalink)
I guess I'm going to be another one to pee in the Cheerios.
 
If they add a tuner I won't complain, but probably wouldn't ever use it. I guess I like things separated. I have excellent tuners, one on my bench, one on my board and a clip on tuner. 2 of my acoustics have built-in tuners. All of them are very accurate.
 
There are tuners in some my plugins like Amplitube and, as mentioned, TH3 and Guitar Rig. Those don't seem to be quite as accurate.
 
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/08 02:28:40 (permalink)
I have an app called Pitchlab on my phone and I use it for tuning guitars. It's no less accurate than any hardware tuners that I have seen.
 
But a tuner built into Sonar would be handy too. Sometimes I want to check the pitch of some audio after it's recorded. And sometimes samples sound a bit off too. It would be useful if there was a quick facility for checking exactly how sharp or flat a particular sampled note is.

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/08 02:41:06 (permalink)
There is a Metronome Bus.  There is a Preview Buss.  I made a Pitch Bus as well and route any track to it when I need to tune or measure a pitch...like in a vocal.  I put Guitar rig in it's FX bin, but any tuning vst will do.  When done with it I reroute the track back to where it is supposed to go.  I like this setup a lot.

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/08 11:13:35 (permalink)
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By the way what the hell is a "snark" tuner?? From the context it sounds like a stompbox?



Headstock tuner. Cheap. Works great.
 



I have about 10 of these. One on every guitar. I have tried a few different ones but I find Snark makes the best all round (economical, good quality) tuners. They also work on Basses as well. some of the others I have tried either don't pick up the low E on a Bass or it loses connectivity/vibrations on the low E.

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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/08 12:58:16 (permalink)
Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: How bout a tuner module for the strip? 2017/05/08 16:33:54 (permalink)
I use Gibson guitars with the G Force automatic tuning. I realize some people diss the concept, but not having to deal with tuning is really quite a luxury. I haven't had to re-cut a guitar track because it was out of tune for years. With instruments like ukulele and bass that don't have automatic tuning, I use a Planet Waves headstock tuner.
 
You could always try this or this, put it in an FX Chain, and have it always ready in the ProChannel. I haven't tried either one, so I can't vouch for them in terms of accuracy or usefulness.

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