jpok1977
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How do I deactivate my software?
Hi all I am wanting information as to how I go about's deactivating my Cakewalk Sonar software. II am wanting to sell the software & feel I will need to deactivate the software before being able to do so. I would appreciate any information as to how I can go about doing this please.
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space_cowboy
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 17:06:32
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I think the EULA says it is not transferable. In other words, if you broke that contract and sold it, the new buyer could not register it and could not receive updates.
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space_cowboy
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 17:07:49
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BTW - you checked agreeing to that stipulation when you first installed Sonar.
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SmilingCrow
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 18:05:19
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In the EU I think the courts have decided that an EULA that states that is unenforceable so you are entitled to sell on software or am I confusing this with what they said about MS Windows!
Not sure if that would really help as you can't transfer the license via Cakewalk anyway.
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Brando
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 18:14:07
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It doesn't matter. Per Space Cowboy's comment, it is my understanding that while the sale itself may be legal in the EU, there is nothing requiring Cakewalk to recognize or fulfill the transfer. Sell it. The new user is still not registered. You are. (Edit) - Smiling Crow beat me to it.
post edited by Brando - 2017/08/11 18:50:07
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SmilingCrow
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 18:18:59
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I don't care for the law but I do care that Cakewalk aren't ripped off so it's a matter of personal ethics I suppose.
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paulo
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 18:25:29
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TBH even if you could sell/transfer the licence, which AFAIK you can't, I'm not sure that you're going to find too many willing buyers of X1 anyway.
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chuckebaby
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 22:46:56
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paulo
TBH even if you could sell/transfer the licence, which AFAIK you can't, I'm not sure that you're going to find too many willing buyers of X1 anyway.
That's a good point. X1 was a rough patch. To the OP, The EULA does clearly state the software can not be re-sold. The wording in the EULA is basically.... " you didn't buy the software, you merely paid to use it". A lot of people don't always look in to purchase agreements when buying software so its an honest mistake.
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Brando
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 22:55:54
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2017/08/12 10:16:38
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paulo
TBH even if you could sell/transfer the licence, which AFAIK you can't, I'm not sure that you're going to find too many willing buyers of X1 anyway.
That's a good point. X1 was a rough patch.
To the OP,
The EULA does clearly state the software can not be re-sold.
The wording in the EULA is basically.... "you didn't buy the software, you merely paid to use it".
A lot of people don't always look in to purchase agreements when buying software so its an honest mistake.
The problem is that in Europe this type of agreement has been ruled invalid. So a user CAN legally sell it, irrespective of the agreement. However there is no corresponding obligation for the software developer to recognize that sale or to register the new owner. It is the original buyer who sold it to the new buyer, not the developer.
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abacab
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 23:19:28
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☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2017/08/13 18:01:04
DAW: CbB; Sonar Platinum, and others ...
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abacab
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/11 23:28:17
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And 3GB RAM system with Sound Blaster trying to run NI Komplete ... good luck with whatever DAW you choose to use. 
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chuckebaby
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/12 01:06:15
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Brando
The problem is that in Europe this type of agreement has been ruled invalid. So a user CAN legally sell it, irrespective of the agreement.
Sure about that ? Legally ?
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Cactus Music
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/12 02:10:41
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Technically you cannot sell any copy of Sonar.
The buyer would not be able to register it.
But because X1 used the old system you could get maybe $10 for it and that person could install it and use your registration numbers to get it working. But it's really not worth the bother breaking a law for $10. X1 was a turkey. Only an uninformed fool would buy it it.
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Brando
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/12 02:37:03
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2017/08/12 10:17:22
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Brando
The problem is that in Europe this type of agreement has been ruled invalid. So a user CAN legally sell it, irrespective of the agreement.
Sure about that ?
Legally ?
There's been lots of articles about it. Here's one which also suggests that even license transfer has to be provided by the developer which is news to me - of course this is Europe only as far as I know. https://arstechnica.com/t...l-downloaded-software/
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/12 04:12:53
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And 3GB RAM system with Sound Blaster trying to run NI Komplete ... good luck with whatever DAW you choose to use.
Good point.
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pwalpwal
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Re: How do I deactivate my software?
2017/08/12 10:18:27
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in the resale forums (kvr etc) users are selling whole accounts, which seems to be the way some non-eu companies are handling this stuff
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