How do I extract specific MIDI notes from a track?

I want to take all snare drum notes out of one track and put it into another, as a standalone snare drum track. Other than manually selecting each and every D3 note, then cut & paste into the new track, isn't there a way to simply tell Sonar to take all D3's from track 1 and put them in  track 2? 

jyoung60
I want to take all snare drum notes out of one track and put it into another, as a standalone snare drum track. Other than manually selecting each and every D3 note, then cut & paste into the new track, isn't there a way to simply tell Sonar to take all D3's from track 1 and put them in  track 2? 

I believe you can simply click the D3 row (using the keyboard thing in the PRV), Copy the Notes (which copies all the D3 notes in the clip) then paste that into the new track.
 
Not entirely sure about that.

You are correct sir. I was messin with Strum and I checked. you can even use cut and cut out the delete. For more than you would need a "Copy to New Track" movement and a feature request campaign. 

jyoung60

Beepster
 
I believe you can simply click the D3 row (using the keyboard thing in the PRV), Copy the Notes (which copies all the D3 notes in the clip) then paste that into the new track.

So close!  It works except that pasting it into the new track puts it in a random place so it's out of sync.

All you gotta do then is select and drag all the notes to the correct note or select all the notes and using the MIDI Event Inspector Module (in the Control Bar) to change the note quality.
 
Not as elegant as all that (and I'm guessing maybe the notes did not land where you wanted perhaps due to your cursor postion in the new track/clip) but still pretty simple for a single row.
 
Cheers.

Beepster
Oops... If you meant timing then maybe you have to disable Snap To Grid. Sounds like all the notes (or the first note) snapped and tossed things out of whack.
 
I can't tell without my hands on the project.
 
Cheers.

Yup, timing. :-)  What I've done is cloned the track, then in PRV dragged my mouse across the notes I DON'T want in the new track, and deleted them until only the note I want remains.  Bogs me down slightly but it's good enough if no other solution exists.
 
I need to finish this one song so I'll leave it at that.  When I need to do the same later on I'll look into the Snap To Grid idea.
 
Thanks for your help!

Whops I used some Special option for copy or Paste that has the two track reflection each other. Cool possibilities but I need to start from scratch. Scook "pleh"

Of course if it were me. I would have given into the temptation, duplicated the source clip in a new track and deleted the non snare hits.

notscruffy2
Of course if it were me. I would have given into the temptation, duplicated the source clip in a new track and deleted the non snare hits.

 
Exactly what I did per my post #9. :-)
 
 

Paul P
It's faster, after you've cloned the track, to hit "Ctl-A" to select all the notes in the PRV, then "Ctl-left_click" the note you want to keep on the PRV's keyboard, then "Ctl-X" or "Delete" to get rid of all the notes you don't want.  Only the note you want will remain.  You can do this on multiple notes at a time if you want to keep more than a single note.

 
Ah, of course, brilliant! 
 
 
I appreciate all the suggestions and replies, folks. I've bookmarked this thread for reference when I need it again.  Thanks!
 

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I think this is the easiest way:
 
1. Click the D3 row in the PRV to select the notes.
2. Click the blank area of the track header in the Track view just to move focus to the view.
3. Hit Num 2 key (to nudge the selected notes to another track).

Anderton
The simplest solution is the MIDI plug-in, "MIDI Event Filter."
 
For example, suppose you want to extract only the C3 notes from a clip. 
 
1. Copy the clip to a new track so you don't disturb the existing track.
2. Insert the MIDI Event Filter in the new track's FX Rack.
3. Open the MIDI Event Filter and check the "Notes" box. Enter C3 in the two note fields (don't try to use the little arrows to adjust notes, they're squirrely. I've alerted QC about this).
4. With the clip selected, choose Process > Apply Effect > MIDI Effects.
5. All the notes except C3 will be cut because your selection consists only of those notes - the others are filtered out.
 

Very cool! A new technique for me. I'll try that! Thanks!

For me the simplest way is 1) select note(s) in PRV, 2) drag the clip to another track holding Shift...

Kylotan
Of course, as I've said in the past, Sonar shouldn't be second-guessing users and placing things at a different location like the Now time or whatever. If I haven't explicitly clicked on the timeline to say where I want something to go after the cut or copy operation, it should appear at the same time it was cut from when it is pasted.

I must admit I as well find a lot of these seemingly simple and rudimentary tasks to be overly awkward and complex in Sonar. I should not have to reference the manual for basics functions like copy/pasting (and that's just one example... I will avoid whining about automation yet again... lol).
 
I do understand why in this particular case (being handling of MIDI instructions) have so many layers of complexity. Without them a lot of power would be lost in how the data can be manipulated and managed but definitely, as you implied, perhaps there could be a system whereby a simple and logical default action/methodology is established for things like the topic of this thread. That being a simple Select, Copy/Cut and Paste move works how most would intend it to (all position/timing properties are retained and a duplicate of what has been selected just goes where it should based on the original data without any extra futzing).
 
If the user needs more advanced copy/pasta functions or wishes to insert to the Now Time or any of the bazillion other fancy things we may need they can start using modifiers or the "Special" dialogs (which could maybe use some updating if this is to work).
 
I get it though. It's hard enough to create a program that can perform all these tasks but it's WAY harder to design things to be user friendly enough to anticipate what MOST people would be attempting to do with such maneuvers.
 
Then there is the matter of changing things this late in the game which would inevitably disrupt many people's workflows. Still worth a shot... just as long as people are made aware of it and can customize the program to NOT have these user friendly simplifications overtake their workflows. But that again is another huge design/programming nightmare.
 
For Sonar though... if they want to have a broader appeal to the average musician and beat out the other guys this IMO is exactly the direction the team should be taking. Make it less awkward/cumbersome to perform general tasks in all commonly used areas without sacrificing complex functionality and I think people will be more likely to warm up to Sonar.
 
A perfect example, for me, of how the Cake team has really simplified an entire aspect of production is the "Inspector" and "Prochannel" concept. Just being able to mash "I" on my keyboard and having access to all sorts of crap I'd otherwise have to dig for and futz with is a huge bonus. I hardly ever have to use standalone plugs in the Bin/Rack and even then I'm actually preferring just using an FX Chain PC module instead so I can tweak things much more easily. I also think the new Comping stuff, although definitely a jewel in the rough, is another idea (once understood) that simplifies things (instead of constantly having crop, fade, mute/unmute crap one step at a time).
 
If they could get a bit more lucidity in some of the other areas (okay... gonna take a swipe at automation again... but seriously it needs work) and continue to refine the areas already noted I would be quite happy. I'm also not finding these "performance" improvements doing anything for me. Quite the opposite actually since X3 so maybe it's time to finish the surgery, stitch up the patient then focus on some workflow enhancements.
 
 
Of course Im just a rabid "fanbois" so what do I know. lol
 
Cheers.

brundlefly

Kylotan
Sonar shouldn't be second-guessing users and placing things at a different location like the Now time or whatever.

The paste buffer (a.k.a. Clipboard) is a Windows object, and by definition contains no destination information.

 
Sonar can embed whatever information it wants into the clipboard, while providing simplified data for other applications if it wants.
 
https://msdn.microsoft.co...9013%28v=vs.85%29.aspx