How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo.

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2011/06/01 12:52:37 (permalink)

How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo.

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I have Sonar 8.5 Producer and would like help from you friendly people on how to record vocals and to hear them through the headphones. So far I use a button that gives a delayed echo so when my artist sings his vocal appears late and throws his concentration. The sound card I use is a m audio 1010lt and my mixer is behringer xenyx 2222, can anyone help Im desperate?
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    CucamongaBlues
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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/01 13:35:15 (permalink)
    What's your signal chain like?  The sound card I use has a headphone out so that a singer can hear their own vocal without any sort of delay.  If your mic is going directly into the behringer, is there a headphone out that they can use?  If you are already doing that, then perhaps you need to turn off the echo on the channel you're recording the vocal on.  It's the button just to the right of the M S R A buttons.

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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/01 14:27:52 (permalink)
    which driver mode are you using and what is your reported latency?

    using the INPUT ECHO button to hear the vocals as you record them will have a delay/echo based on the latency of the system.  reduce your latency and you reduce the echo heard for direct monitoring.

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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/01 15:00:41 (permalink)
    You could use a mixer's subgroup for recording and monitor anything being recorded through another group. Not sure how that would work with your mixer but I'm sure it's easy enough to do. I do something similar with my little Mackie mixer and I can hear anything being recorded through my mixer with zero latency because I'm not hearing it after it passes through the computer.


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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/01 15:17:38 (permalink)
    I use a headphone amp/mixer and outboard effects. the headphone amp/mixer enables you to route the signal with effects to the singer and the dry signal to Sonar.

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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/01 16:39:15 (permalink)
    Chappel


    You could use a mixer's subgroup for recording and monitor anything being recorded through another group. Not sure how that would work with your mixer but I'm sure it's easy enough to do. I do something similar with my little Mackie mixer and I can hear anything being recorded through my mixer with zero latency because I'm not hearing it after it passes through the computer.


    this is what I do as well.  I can even mix in some reverb if I want.

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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/01 21:06:50 (permalink)
    You problem is the lack of a headphone output on the delta. So use your mixer for monitoring.
    You mixer has a few options for sending the mike to the delta without sending the playback. You can use a submix buss, or an auxillary out, But this sometimes can be contaminated.   listen carfully for cross buss bleed. Myself I would use the insert jacks.  You can get a clean feed from the Mike buy patching the INSERT jack on the back of your mixer. Push a 1/4 cable only to first click. This steals the signal from the pre amp gain stage only. You could keep them patched like this to a bunch of channels. Looks like you would have 8.

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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/02 21:52:19 (permalink)
    +1 for monitor through the mixer. Record dry and add effects later. 
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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/03 03:39:46 (permalink)
    That  term "input echo" is actually quite distracting. Very, very many beginners confuse it for reverb and get lost. They assume that the latency they hear, the "echo", is supposed to be there and don't know where to look for the answer for low latency monitoring.

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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/03 11:09:11 (permalink)
    He was desperate, but never replied?

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    Re:How do I monitor vocals when recording through headphones without an echo. 2011/06/03 15:34:59 (permalink)
    happens all the time

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