Bearcublandon
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How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
I'm using Line 6 Monkey as my midi - keyboard. I'm going through Tutorial 2 and I'm creating a new project. When I open the File New, the dialog box opens but the only list I have available is called Templat List is called "Normal". the tutorial says to select midi - where to I get the midi template from, do I have to create one? I read up on creating a new template but am not sure if I'm doing it correctly because everytime I chose new - I get the same dialog box. Advice on how to do Tutorial # 2?
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RobertB
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 00:35:41
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What version of Sonar are you using?
In the templates, you should see stuff like Normal, Blank, MIDI only, etc.
Also, Monkey is software. It is not a MIDI input device. Do you maybe have a KB37 interface with the built-in keyboard?
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 02:40:25
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If you're just getting started, I wouldn't scratch my head with the templates, because opening the "Normal" you can add or remove tracks with two mouse-clicks.
The question is confusing, to say the least. How on earth could one use an updater software as a MIDI-keyboard??
Anyway, if it includes some kind of a virtual keyboard, for MIDI recording you need a hardware keyboard, if you don't want to draw notes with a mouse.
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Bearcublandon
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 10:37:38
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Sorry. I have a KB37 midi keyboard which I've used to enter notes into Finale so the problem isn't the cable connections. I think it might be that I am not mapping the new track to sonar, I'm using version 8.5 producer . The input device defaults to Asio Kb37, is this correct or should it be something else. I know i a not doing something. Is there something I should be working for to map the KB37 to Sonar 8.5?
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 11:34:58
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I hate to be the one to say it but your trying to do the very basic stuff and you obviously are not reading the instructions. Go to the help files and do a little reading for a few days while playing with the software. There's no point us randomly quoting instructions from the help files for each step when it's all very clearly there,,, or buy the book from Scott.
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Bearcublandon
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 15:04:50
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Good point. However, I was reading the Help files and couldn't get any where with it.
I think I found the problem. I'm not sure out to set up the Input, Bank, Patch or Output.
Input is presently defaulting to OMNI - if I'm using the keyboard, shouldn't it be the KB37?
Midi-Channel - should that be General or Channel 1?
Bank - selected
Patch - need to select an instrument so I've chosen Piano
Output : KB37
I think this is the problem. the other instructions are clear it is this part which is not part of the Tutorial. The tutorial is assuming you know how to map it properly
I confused on how to map Sonar to the midi. When I open the new file, it has OMNI as default. Shouldn't this be the KB37 Omni?
Bank is fine, but I would need to select an instrument otherwise nothing will happen.
For the output - should it be the KB37?
Sorry to be such a pain but I'm feeling a little overwhelmed with trying to figure things out so any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Michael
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Bearcublandon
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 15:31:56
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Actually, I just went through the entire Tutorial. The midi was recording what I played. I could see the actual printed music and I could see the wave forms. However, I couldn't hear it being played. this is how I set it up
Input - KB37 Omni
Midi Channel - General
Bank - Bank
Patch - Acoustic Piano
Output - KB37 Toneport
Track 5 - this is the midi track I inserted.
I can see the drum-roll view, the events list, etc but I can't hear anything. I can hear the tutorial 1 I created and I can hear the demos provided by sonar but I cannot hear the midi now.
Something is not being mapped properly and I don't know enough about the properly to know what is missing.
thanks
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 16:56:40
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Those aren't waveforms on a MIDI track. Those are representations of the notes you played. MIDI is not audio, it is control codes that tell a synth what to play and when and how to play it.
Check the MIDI Control submenu for the KB37 and make sure its set to receive MIDI on the channel you're sending it on. If you're sending on channel 1 and its receiving on channel 2, you won't hear anything.
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 17:03:23
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I'm not familiar with the equipment you have, so might be misunderstanding the problem, but where are you expecting the sound to come from ? Does the keyboard have it's own built in sounds ? If it is just a midi controller it needs to be pointed at something capable of making a sound, like a softsynth or a midi keyboard with it's own on-board sounds before you will hear anything.
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 20:07:44
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paulo
...where are you expecting the sound to come from ? Does the keyboard have it's own built in sounds ?
No, it's a combined midi keyboard and audio interface. I get the impression that the OP has this hardware working ok but is unaware of softsynths.
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Bearcublandon
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 20:19:25
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Hmm, good question. The problem might be is that I've gotten used to Finale. Whenever I use the Midi-Keyboard I always hear what I am playing. If I'm imputing on a violin track, I will hear the violin. If I inputing ona piano track, I hear the piano. etc. I was expecting to hear the acoustic piano sounding as I was pressing notes.
The KB 37 input and output are the same device - KB37.
What I do see as strang is for Track 5 (the midi channe) I am see 3-Line 6 Port KB37. For the output, I see 1-3-Line 6 Port KB37. Input and output are on channel 1. I don't know what the problem is. I'll keep on looking through the help, maybe I'll find something.
If you're recording from a midi track for yourself, what do you normally use? Maybe I can mimick what you do and maybe stumble on the answer. I has to be how I'm mapping it because Sonar is recognizing the keyboard and the output because I can hear demos, but I'm not doing something properly for the midi set-up.
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 20:21:26
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 20:25:12
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step 1) go to insert / soft synth
step 2) choose your synth.
step 3) go to the tracks input and change it to your keyboards name. (example: m audio oxygen 49)
step 4) make sure input echo is turned on (don't forget this or you wont be able to hear the synth)
step 5) that's it.
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 20:49:10
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Well, I think I figured it out. I didn't have the TSS loaded in the in or out. I had the KB37 - slap my forehead! I feel like Ricky Ricardo must have felt when Lucy did something strange - except that I pulled the Lucy!
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Bearcublandon
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/05/31 23:33:43
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thank you Chuck for the tips. I watched your videos and found them extremely helpful. thank you for the recipe - I can help my keyboard playing and hear it playing back. Now I can start to move forward.
I will probably be after further diffiulties as I go through layers of learning and appreciate the help and the vidoes. Please sent me out videos you may have created. Always learning something new.
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Bearcublandon
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/06/01 00:29:37
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thank you for the tips. I can now open a new project and get everything to work - this is the first step. I do the Garritan Aria Player mapped to sonar because I was just able to use the Soft Sync to play in the Violin that I have loaded in Finale. Geez it 's taken me almost 4 years to really get this to work for me. I'm total Stoked!!!
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Re:How do I play Midi Keyboard through Sonar
2013/06/01 00:53:31
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Run with it.
Now that you've got the signal path figured out, it's pretty much the same for all of your soft synths.
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