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2012/06/07 12:19:01 (permalink)

How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts...

The problem is with Guitar Rig's search engine when I type in something it activates the keyboard shortcuts, example....I type in a "P" for lets say "preset 36" and Sonar's "Preferences" window opens up....I want to shut off the keyboard shortcuts as I never use them anyway, but I would be using GR5's seach feature. I don't want to permantly delete them, I just want to deactivate them for a while.
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 15:36:39 (permalink)
Not as far as I can see - I tried 'Zap All' from the key bindings preferences page (after first exporting them of course). This seems only to clear user-defined ones - the defaults remained in place.
My thinking was that maybe you could export them, zap them temporarily, then import them when you needed them again. Alas not.

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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 15:40:39 (permalink)
Ya I tried that too, no joy...

I found that if you type "T" as in "Twin Reverb" the cursor toolbar opens up...This is definitely a bug... and when you hit the spacebar the music starts playing as the transport is controlled by the spacebar.
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 15:46:32 (permalink)
There is a setting, I can't remember off the top of my head, that allows the keystrokes in VSTs to be passed through to the host (Sonar). I believe it is in the GR settings but it may be a Sonar setting. You want to turn that off.

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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 15:48:29 (permalink)
Unplug your keyboard. :-D
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 15:52:30 (permalink)
If I unplug the keyboard then I can't type in the preset that I'm searching for...

I didn't see and settings in GR for that, and haven't found a keyboard shortcuts shutoff in Sonar yet...
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:11:55 (permalink)
I have failed at being humorous. :-(
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:18:27 (permalink)
When you type in "Twin Reverb" the "T" opens up the tool bar, the spacebar turns on the transport, turn it off, then hit "R" and Sonar starts recording !!!
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:20:38 (permalink)
Yeah... I was just scouring the intertubes to find an answer for you and the only thing relevant in the search was this thread. Here's a potential workaround (not sure if it would work but it's worth a try). Open up notepad, type in what you want then copy/paste it into the dialog box in Sonar. Cheers.
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:25:04 (permalink)
Did you try clicking the little keyboard icon at the top right of the plugin's window? You've got the buttons S R W and then the keyboard. That button means "give all keystrokes to plugin"

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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:26:27 (permalink)
You might want to let NI know about this too because I don't think this is a Sonar issue. I mean all those shortcuts automatically disable when renaming tracks and stuff.
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:35:45 (permalink)
I have failed at being humorous. :-(
I thought it was funny.

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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:37:42 (permalink)
Yay! :-)
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:41:46 (permalink)
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Did you try clicking the little keyboard icon at the top right of the plugin's window? You've got the buttons S R W and then the keyboard. That button means "give all keystrokes to plugin"

Yep that fixed it !!!! YAY !!!! The keyboard icon turns blue when the keyboard is set to work with GR and white when it's set to work with Sonar....
 
It was getting pretty funny there...I'd type in a preset name and all kids of things would happen !!!! LOL !!
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:45:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby williamcopper 2014/11/03 09:25:20
Not the same thing exactly, but I would like to do a selective disable of keyboard shortcuts.  For example, I use some all the time (like D for Dock and P for Preferences), but some of the others wreak unintended havoc—and I often don't even know what I did or how to undo it.  It should be an easy matter for Cakewalk to provide a checklist of shortcuts in Preferences and let someone uncheck the undesired ones.  A SELECT ALL or DESELECT ALL would give djwayne what he needs.  (You would have to use the menus to get Preferences back and reselect them, but that is not a huge deal.) 
 
Glad there is a fix or workaround for the problem, but I still think we need this function. SMOP
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:48:31 (permalink)
I got the answer I needed. I just have to remember to activate the keyboard icon in GR5 while searching and I'm good to go.
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:51:09 (permalink)
@konradh... I thought you could customize shortcuts in X1. If so you could just change the ones you don't want to keys on an area of the keyboard that are more out of the way so they are less likely to get pressed accidentally. Just a thought.
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 16:53:22 (permalink)
There seems to be some keyboard shortcuts that are permanent and can't be changed.
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 17:00:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby williamcopper 2014/11/03 09:25:42
While there's no global keyboard shortcut disable function, you _can_ assign individual shortcuts to the Do Nothing command found in the Global Bindings list. This even works with the default shortcuts.

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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 17:01:45 (permalink)
That's a little annoying. I have old video games like that and I just don't bother playing them because I don't like the bindings. One funny thing I'm finding while I work in X1 is, even though I haven't really done any audio stuff for a couple of years I find my fingers wandering to the old Nuendo shortcuts. lol
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 17:03:13 (permalink)
@garrigus... well that's good to know. Might save me a some headaches if I'm editing after a few too many barley pops. ;-)
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 17:04:39 (permalink)
While there's no global keyboard shortcut disable function, you _can_ assign individual shortcuts to the Do Nothing command found in the Global Bindings list. This even works with the default shortcuts.

 
Another great tip!

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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 17:07:04 (permalink)
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Another great tip!
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 17:13:13 (permalink)
hmm... I wonder if I get a deal on that because I bought the big box. I'll have to check my account.
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Re:How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2012/06/07 17:22:08 (permalink)
Yep here's what happens when you type in "twin reverb" while just in Sonar...

t- opens up the cursor tool window

i- opens up the Inspector window

Spacebar starts the transport

r- starts the recording function and metronome

e-turns on the effects
 
2nd e-turns off the effects
 
2nd r turns off the recording function.. 
 
 b-opens up the browser
 
Hilarious !!
 
 
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Re: How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2013/06/17 19:14:38 (permalink)
None of the suggested solutions actually work with many of my vsts.  For example, none of the U-He synths work with SONAR. 
 
The "Do nothing" command doesn't affect the default global key bindings.
 
The "Give all keystrokes to plug-in" also doesn't work.
 
It's definitely a SONAR bug.  I've complained about it numerous times, but I don't think Cake sees it as a bug.
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Re: How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2013/06/18 14:06:20 (permalink)
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None of the suggested solutions actually work with many of my vsts.  For example, none of the U-He synths work with SONAR. 
 
The "Do nothing" command doesn't affect the default global key bindings.
 
The "Give all keystrokes to plug-in" also doesn't work.
 
It's definitely a SONAR bug.  I've complained about it numerous times, but I don't think Cake sees it as a bug.


I just tried U-He Diva works fine here. It is CPU intensive but the developer states so and why. I have never had "Give all keystrokes to Plug-in" not work what vst are you having trouble with.
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Re: How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2013/06/18 14:19:30 (permalink)
Wow... seeing these old posts of mine is... well... lol
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Re: How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2013/06/18 19:03:07 (permalink)
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Gonga
None of the suggested solutions actually work with many of my vsts.  For example, none of the U-He synths work with SONAR. 
 
The "Do nothing" command doesn't affect the default global key bindings.
 
The "Give all keystrokes to plug-in" also doesn't work.
 
It's definitely a SONAR bug.  I've complained about it numerous times, but I don't think Cake sees it as a bug.


I just tried U-He Diva works fine here. It is CPU intensive but the developer states so and why. I have never had "Give all keystrokes to Plug-in" not work what vst are you having trouble with.


Try saving a preset with a new name.  Inputting the name seems to be the issue.
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Re: How do I turn off keyboard shortcuts... 2013/06/19 12:05:45 (permalink)
I thoroughly detest keyboard shortcuts (including the screenset number keys) becuase it is too easy to bump a key and get things completely screwed up.  I would be OK if either 1-you could toggle shortcuts off and on or 2-if UNDO would undo whatever the last shortcut was.  UNDO only works if the shortcut was record or something like that--not if it hoses your set-up or screen.
 
I think this is a big miss in Cakewalk requirements and I am amazed this didn't occur to anyone.  From a coding standpoint, to toggle all off or on does not seem like a difficult thing. (Undo would be harder because it is a core Windows thing and the Undo would not mean the same thing in every situation.)

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