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2018/11/13 08:27:30 (permalink)

How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage?

Hi all.  I need to select all/up the velocity of my drums by 30-40%.  Each note is edited for subtle nuances volume wise (like quiet to loud drum rolls) but the highest velocity is 80 so my drum sample library in that velocity sounds wimpy.  I need more snap without losing all the previous editing where some are quiet.
 
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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/13 09:18:46 (permalink)
This assumes you are using either an X series version of SONAR or CbB

1. Select all the notes.
2. Use the Event Inspector in the Control Bar
3. In the Velocity box type a Positive value i.e. +10 or +15 to add that amount or you can type a percentage value i.e. +130%.

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/13 09:21:12 (permalink)
This video by Scott Garrigus about the Event Inspector shows you how to do this at 13:27.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixb8gIcGM-U&index=3&list=PLFdNhPVD03KCTxKOWpz8tfzCMbWfXASJS
 

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/13 10:18:29 (permalink)
You can also up the velocity on the midi track, it will add the same number to each each event.
 
This is labeled 'gain' on the Inspector or in the console view

 
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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/13 10:21:39 (permalink)
I always use Process->Scale Velocity from the menu.

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/13 10:22:11 (permalink)
In the piano roll view, if you lasso all teh velocities, but catching just the top of the highest, yo can drag them all up proportionally to the lassoed area.
 
 

 
 
 
 

 
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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/13 12:25:32 (permalink)
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I always use Process->Scale Velocity from the menu.




I believe this will turn all notes to the same velocity.
 
 
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Each note is edited for subtle nuances volume wise (like quiet to loud drum rolls)
 


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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/13 12:43:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby thefyn 2018/11/19 16:12:29
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I always use Process->Scale Velocity from the menu.




I believe this will turn all notes to the same velocity.
 
 



When the "Percentages" checkbox is checked, it scales the velocity by that percentage, so if you have 120 in both begin and end, it'll increase velocity by 20%.
 
If the percentage box is unchecked, it will set the velocity to the number specified.
 
[Edit] - I can't find it in the current Cakewalk help online, but the X2 equivalent is here (See the section at the bottom on Percentages):
 
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Dialogs2.099.html
 

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/13 15:02:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby thefyn 2018/11/19 16:12:20
msmcleod
 I can't find it in the current Cakewalk help online, but the X2 equivalent is here (See the section at the bottom on Percentages):
 
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Dialogs2.099.html
 


From the CbB help index
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=EditingMIDI.37.html#1418966
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Dialogs2.101.html
 
Another way is the Velocity MFX. The change slider adds a specified increment (-127 to 127) to all velocities. The scale slider multiplies all velocities by a constant factor of 1% to 900%.
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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/14 13:54:21 (permalink)
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This video by Scott Garrigus about the Event Inspector shows you how to do this at 13:27.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixb8gIcGM-U&index=3&list=PLFdNhPVD03KCTxKOWpz8tfzCMbWfXASJS



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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/15 02:01:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby thefyn 2018/11/19 16:10:54
I do like Kamikaze does.
Why bother opening all those menus when all you need is the mouse in PVR. 
Mostly I highlight all the notes and drag them up with the velocity smart tool. This is the red area as shown in the diagram of a midi note in PRV.  

Here's a little trick I use to do what the OP is asking ( sort of) 
My digital drum kit often records at very uneven velocities. I want to preserve some of this but not all. 
The snare track- Say the highest value is 127  and the lowest is 80 
I like my snare maxing around 107
127 is too much and 60 is too little so dragging it all down -20 won't cut it.   
So I look for a note that is around 107  highlight the whole snare part using the left hand keyboard GUI  and drag them all to max  let go, grab again now I drag them all down to 107.  ( -20 ) 
the 127 will now be 107 , The 80 and all between 107 are preserved. But I have now evened out all the overs. 
 
If I want a whole track, like bass to be the same then I grab the lowest value note and do the same. All the notes get squished to max and then you simply just drag it back down to where you want it. 
All this with a few strokes of the mouse.. fast. 
 
Keep in mind that Velocity IS NOT volume. Example is  Ample Bass passed 120 it turns into a Slap sound. Velocity's purpose is to manipulate timber.  Piano stuck softly sounds totally different than a piano hit at max. Most sounds in the VST world respond to higher velocity with harsher timber. 
So it's important to understand this when messing with velocity. 
The perfect tone your after might be between 80 and 112.  
 

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/15 10:47:49 (permalink)
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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/19 16:11:11 (permalink)
Thanks everyone.  I'll let you know how it goes. 
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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/19 16:24:48 (permalink)
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I always use Process->Scale Velocity from the menu.


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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/19 16:55:53 (permalink)
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I always use Process->Scale Velocity from the menu.




I believe this will turn all notes to the same velocity.
 
 



When the "Percentages" checkbox is checked, it scales the velocity by that percentage, so if you have 120 in both begin and end, it'll increase velocity by 20%.
 
If the percentage box is unchecked, it will set the velocity to the number specified.
 
[Edit] - I can't find it in the current Cakewalk help online, but the X2 equivalent is here (See the section at the bottom on Percentages):
 
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Dialogs2.099.html
 




Yes you are correct and maybe im wrong but if his snare drums are all different velocity's,
wont selecting percentages change all selected notes ?

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/19 20:43:58 (permalink)
Don''t forget there's always the invaluable Midi Fx plugin which can do lots of different types of editing to velocities

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/19 21:25:13 (permalink)
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I always use Process->Scale Velocity from the menu.




I believe this will turn all notes to the same velocity.
 
 



When the "Percentages" checkbox is checked, it scales the velocity by that percentage, so if you have 120 in both begin and end, it'll increase velocity by 20%.
 
If the percentage box is unchecked, it will set the velocity to the number specified.
 
[Edit] - I can't find it in the current Cakewalk help online, but the X2 equivalent is here (See the section at the bottom on Percentages):
 
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Dialogs2.099.html
 




Yes you are correct and maybe im wrong but if his snare drums are all different velocity's,
wont selecting percentages change all selected notes ?




Well, yes, but only the selected notes, and by the same percentage.
 
So if you wanted to ignore some snare drums, use the select by filter to only select the notes you want to change.

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/19 22:35:17 (permalink)
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Well, yes, but only the selected notes, and by the same percentage.
 
So if you wanted to ignore some snare drums, use the select by filter to only select the notes you want to change.

 
Then how is he supposed to raise the velocity's of those snare drums that aren't loud enough

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Re: How do I up the velocity of every midi note by a percentage? 2018/11/20 18:35:45 (permalink)
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msmcleod
Well, yes, but only the selected notes, and by the same percentage.
 
So if you wanted to ignore some snare drums, use the select by filter to only select the notes you want to change.

 
Then how is he supposed to raise the velocity's of those snare drums that aren't loud enough




How to increase velocity by 20% only for snare drums with a velocity of 80 or under:
 


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