How do i assign individual drum pieces to tracks in addictive drums

Hi yeah, ive seen 2 utube clips, one showing how to do it in session drummer, and one showing how to seperate out in addictive drums 2, after setting up as simple instrumnt track..........So please tell me the process.....i know how to get multiple mono or stereo tracks midi softsynth addictive drums.......just how do i assign each one to its drum piece?

actually i figured this half out, if you go into input source on your track veiw, click addictive drums you have a list of all the bits to assign, however i hve no signal or sound.......so i still need help
 

Right so im already doing most of this, when i used a simple instrument track,and seperated it out etc.....i was unable to edit it after recording in addictive drums.........so i guess that has something to do with doing it as midi instead of simple instrument track........but yeah....im keen to hear more feedback on this post of other ways of doing it

So again i tried it another way, i went create softsynth/ addictive drum2/ chose midi and stereo softsyths outputs/ i opened addictive drums/ seperated everything post fader/ went into inputs and assigned each track to there drum piece............Yes everythings on its own track/ press record/ records ok.....however on playback.......it nolonger registers in addictive drums, because it recorded as audio not midi..........HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I'm not totally sure what you're trying to do. You talk of dragging a loop from AD2 onto a track and playing it. Which is a midi track triggering AD2.
 
Then you say "yet if I press play and record it, records nothing." So if you press record (pressing play isn't ever going to record anything) I'm not sure what you're trying to record. Are you trying to record the output of the AD2 loop you're playing to an audio track?
 
Later on you say you're trying to record your yamaha DTX700 electric drums.. I'm confused, but I'll take a shot that what you're really trying to do is record your electronic drums. And I'll guess that you're trying to record midi from your electronic kit and have that trigger AD2 sounds.
 
If that's the case, you need to connect the midi out of your DTX to the midi in of your recording interface. Then in Sonar create a midi track. On the midi track, select the input to be the DTX and arm that track for recording. 
 
Hit record and play your drums. You should record midi on your track from your DTX. Now insert your AD2 soft synth, but don't select simple track, I just select "synth track folder" "first synth audio output" "synth property page" and that's pretty much it.
 
Now on your midi track where you recorded your kit, set the output to go to the Addictive Drums synth. There are some midi maps for yam gear but I don't see the DTX, maybe it's a yam generic or something. You may have to move notes around in your midi track for them to trigger the correct kit piece. In AD2, you can hit the ? and go to "map window" to see the midi notes corresponding to the kit pieces. Make sure you're midi notes are assigned correctly and you should be good. 
 
Hit play and  your midi should play your AD2 kit. 
 
gabo
 
 
 

paul jenkins
Thanx, sorry to confuse things, my main issue is after i record drums using addictive drums onto individual tracks, it no longer registers in addictive drums kit veiw, so i cant go back and change kit pieces after ive recorded.Why?

Because you've recorded the Addictive Drums audio output in the same manner as if you'd recorded real drums.  You can't change the drums out once they've been recorded.  If you want to be able to change the kit pieces on the fly you need to be using a MIDI track to trigger the performance.  It IS completely possible to route AD to external tracks and use SONAR's Console View for mixing and fx, while still using a MIDI track.   Exporting to audio should be your final step.

paul jenkins
i fail to be able to use the sounds off the dtx700 module with sonar,thats what im having issues with

Ok, let's start with this. If you have a midi track, maybe one you created by dragging a loop from AD2. Can't you just set the output of the midi track to go to the DTX? You might need some note mapping to trigger the correct sounds on the DTX. Then if you want to record those on an audio track, just patch the out of your DTX into your audio interface and record an audio track in sonar. I actually do that with a Ddrum module some times.
 

paul jenkins
 Apparently according to the dtx manual, you are ment to send the signal from the dtx into sonar THROUGH sonar (i cant find the through setting), out into the dtx module, which buzzes the module sound and bounces it back onto a seperate track in sonar

 
I don't understand what you're trying to do here. Ok, so you're hitting your edrums, which creates and audio output and a midi output. Why would you route the midi through sonar back to the DTX to trigger it and then record the audio output of the DTX? Seems like if you want the audio from the DTX recorded, you would just take the audio out of it into an audio track and hit record, forget the midi.  If the DTX has individual outs (I'm not familiar with it) then you could record the individual kit pieces to separate tracks.
 
gabo

And they say that every daw has a midi through option????????????i cant see any midi through options.....and yes ive managed  to get a midi signal in sonar with all ins and outs for dtx700 in and out, but i cant hear anything.........the whole purpose is to use the sounds of the dtx module????????????
 

 
Haha, you're a hoot Paul! Bummer about not having individual outs for your edrum. Yes those modules can be expensive. I'm not sure how looping the midi through sonar and back to the DTX solves that problem, but maybe there is a way.
 
Sounds like you got something working for you at least a little bit. For the midi through option you're talking about it's called "input echo" in sonar. It's a button right on the midi channel. You can read about how it works here
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Playback.34.html
 
But I still don't understand how looping it through sonar is going to do anything different. You're basically just sending the same midi signals back to the box it came from. Where are the youtube vids you've mentioned about how to do what you're trying to do? Maybe I could watch those and understand what it is  you're trying to do.
 
gabo

https://youtu.be/KxL8oU8ZtYA
So thats the video url, guy from yamaha.......and this is the link for dtx 700 manual
http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?language=en&site=ca.yamaha.com&category_id=16139&product_id=1469372
The bit about connecting to computer is page 52 - 54.......mainly 53
Yeah, i think ive figured out whats going on though, yeah maybe it just means, you send midi data to sonar, as well as line out a stereo single track audio, and then you could re-record using the same take(midi data) back through the dtx700 to try different kits!!!???........or at least you have the midi data to then feed into addictive drums as slugbaby suggested!!!...........maybe thats what its about........im thinkin at least doing it this way it would solve the problem where i cant figure out how to assign choke feature to addictive drums, because i would have recorded the track hearing the dtx700 sounds where choke works very smoothly, and actually, playing the dtx700 with its on sounds etc is much smoother than using it as atrigger..........So yeah maybe this is a good way to do it, record it 1st using dtx sounds and then feed that midi into addictive drums.

Try this:
Record the MIDI from your DTX.
Separate it into a different MIDI track for eack piece of the DTX kit.
Send the Kick MIDI track back to the DTX and record that as an audio track.
Send the Snare MIDI track back to the DTX and record that as an audio track.
Same for each other drum.
 
It'll be more work than running the MIDI through AD, but it'll give you separate tracks for each DTX piece if that's really what you want.

Is this helpful  Syncing a Drum Kit to AD2
Then follow it with the video from here ~~~> Separating AD2 Tracks in Sonar for individual drum tracks
 
Than should work for you.