How do you eq your various instruments?

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2011/10/03 00:55:26 (permalink)

How do you eq your various instruments?

     Good at getting my drums and vocals the way i like them, but i have trouble with guitar, pianos, synths.... i feel like guitar and synth are fighting for the same spot in the mix, where do you prefer to "sit" things? I know each mix is different but give me some good places to start, for the purposes of rock and hip hop
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    Re:How do you eq your various instruments? 2011/10/03 01:11:58 (permalink)
    EQ is so source-specific, any answers you get here will be quite irrelevant for you I think. The only way yo're going to get some useful advice is by posting samples...

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    Re:How do you eq your various instruments? 2011/10/03 01:21:50 (permalink)
    One way often mentioned is to never boost, just cut other stuff instead.

    And panning of course to separate things.

    And finally you mention "guitar, pianos, synths", it sounds maybe too many things - soundwall.

    Arrangement might be the thing to adjust - and choosing instruments that don't overlap too much in frequency content.  Not all instruments need to sound all the time - make the mix breathe.


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    Re:How do you eq your various instruments? 2011/10/03 02:09:39 (permalink)
    Arrangement might be the thing to adjust - and choosing instruments that don't overlap too much in frequency content. Not all instruments need to sound all the time - make the mix breathe.

     
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    Arrangement can have a profound affect on the mix.
    If you're playing guitar, keys, piano all in the same mid-range, you can create a mess.
    Also, use high-pass filters to keep these mid-range instruments from competing in the deep sub-bass range of the kick and bass.  Same with vocals...

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    Re:How do you eq your various instruments? 2011/10/03 02:39:39 (permalink)
    Each mix varies. In addition to the HP & LP filters mentioned one thing I do is set up a EQ band with a very narrow Q and high gain. Then while the full mix is playing sweep the frequency pot and you'll find 'sweet spots' as well as some really poor spots. I usually find a couple of the sweet varity and one maybe two of the poor type.

    Set your other band's frequency pots to those sweet & sour spots. Then use a combination of cut and boost to get the sound to sit how you want it to. Narrow Qs tend to work better on cut and wider Q's on boosts. I tend to cut more than I do boost but I don't follow that as a hard and fast rule. Depends on what I'm after.
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    Re:How do you eq your various instruments? 2011/10/03 09:53:34 (permalink)
    Piano is really difficult to suss out because of the range it covers in a denser mix.  Roll off the highs/lows too much and you get honkeytonk, which is fine for C/W but ...  Esp. with piano if it is written/played/arranged properly there shouldn't be too much overlap.  If there are parts that need to stick out you can use the sweep technique, but it is probably better to use some cut in the overlapping frequencies where you want the other instrument(s) to poke through.

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    Re:How do you eq your various instruments? 2011/10/03 10:19:57 (permalink)
    This may be the way everyone works but I will share it anyway,.... The best advice I ever had was to keep every instrument (apart from drums) in mono and use panning to separate frequencies. Pretty much as a rule, I use the High Pass Filter on everything but the bass and kick drum which I use a Low Pass Filter on. EQ to suit after that but remove don't add or the highs will become harsh. I know that you cannot use the same 'formula' for every mix but I find that if I stick to these rules it makes mixing easier.
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    Re:How do you eq your various instruments? 2011/10/03 10:50:57 (permalink)
    I've had some success EQ'ing piano with what, from memory I think is the 'tilt' preset in Sonitus

    It's just a straight, tilted curve starting at about -6db @ 20Hz rising to +6Db @ 20KHz

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