How do you move all song tracks to start a zero ?

The simple way is take the exported wav file and import it into a new project then slip edit the part that you don't want and slide it over to zero. That last slide is unnecessary if you then bounce or export it. Getting back to your project. If you have a V Vocal clip in your project that could cause the inability to move all the tracks.

Yeah, simply select all (ctrl + a), then just drag along the timeline for the area you want exported, i.e. ignoring the first 15 seconds, set your options and export.

I think this is what Frank was suggesting.....

I wouldn't bother with the extra hassle of exporting the whole thing into a new project then slip editing etc. This seems like unecessary work.

Or download Audacity... that's what I usually use to finalize (heads and tails) of a song

ORIGINAL: John

The simple way is take the exported wav file and import it into a new project then slip edit the part that you don't want and slide it over to zero. That last slide is unnecessary if you then bounce or export it. Getting back to your project. If you have a V Vocal clip in your project that could cause the inability to move all the tracks.

This is going to result in another trip through the audio engine and that's why I think it's important to have a wav editor to do mastering. Audacity, SoundForge, Wavlab.. anything so you can edit your exported wav file. You might need to fade and trim the ends... do some final gain change, resample to 44.1, bit reduce to 16bit. I do all that in SoundForge after I have export from Sonar at the project sample rate and at 24bit.

This is going to result in another trip through the audio engine and that's why I think it's important to have a wav editor to do mastering. Audacity, SoundForge, Wavlab.. anything so you can edit your exported wav file. You might need to fade and trim the ends... do some final gain change, resample to 44.1, bit reduce to 16bit. I do all that in SoundForge after I have export from Sonar at the project sample rate and at 24bit.

Yes true to a point but if using Sonar's audio engine at 64 bits FP and just trimming the length that should not have any impact on, well anything. I also have SF and use it for many of the same things but I have found for 90% or better of the stuff I do I only need Sonar. If I don't have any hard core editing to do to a file or stuff that SF is great at doing Sonar fills all my needs 90 % of the time. Either way in this case the file that was already created and exported can be further edited either in Sonar or SF. It really makes no real difference. To me SF seems like overkill for anything that is ready for mastering.

For getting to CD I use CD Architect.


Edit I should say in the past Sonar was not ready for this sort of thing now I believe it is. Sound Forge was needed for mastering and so many other things. Now Sonar is a great mastering tool on its own with the right plugins. As I have noted before I have a template for mastering in Sonar that serves me well. I like the environment in Sonar much better then in SF for this too.