How do you record the audio output of a VSTi during performance?

aspenleaf


Thanks for the reply Bob. I am able to do what you describe, but I'd also like to record the audio output of the VSTi as it is being used, instead of recording the midi, then bouncing it to a track.

Bristol_Jonesey

aspenleaf


Thanks for the reply Bob. I am able to do what you describe, but I'd also like to record the audio output of the VSTi as it is being used, instead of recording the midi, then bouncing it to a track.

This morning's simple question is - why?

Why do you feel the need for recordings just the audio, rendering any future editing of notes completely impossible?

Also, even with just the Midi recorded, you don't need to bounce it to audio afterwards, unless your pc is hopelessly underpowered and you need to free up resources.

swamptooth


fwiw if you've ever recorded audio output from a softsynth, you can see the value after a little while.  it's a nice feature to have with patches that invoke random elements like some of the tools in reaktor.  there are, in some softsynths, parameters that cannot be automated but they can be controlled via screen interface and in a live situation, if you're interacting with your machine you can control the parameters but a reproduction is lost to the ether.  i find myself using record audio from instrument a lot in reason, because i have some patches that use the audio input from other synths with random noise generators as cv signals to other reason synths.  by recording the audio i can find a spot of randomness i like from the carrier signal synth and cut and paste it into different parts of the song. 

Bristol_Jonesey

aspenleaf


Thanks for the reply Bob. I am able to do what you describe, but I'd also like to record the audio output of the VSTi as it is being used, instead of recording the midi, then bouncing it to a track.

This morning's simple question is - why?

Why do you feel the need for recordings just the audio, rendering any future editing of notes completely impossible?

Also, even with just the Midi recorded, you don't need to bounce it to audio afterwards, unless your pc is hopelessly underpowered and you need to free up resources.

swamptooth

Bristol_Jonesey

aspenleaf


Thanks for the reply Bob. I am able to do what you describe, but I'd also like to record the audio output of the VSTi as it is being used, instead of recording the midi, then bouncing it to a track.

This morning's simple question is - why?

Why do you feel the need for recordings just the audio, rendering any future editing of notes completely impossible?

Also, even with just the Midi recorded, you don't need to bounce it to audio afterwards, unless your pc is hopelessly underpowered and you need to free up resources.

my mornings simple question is why not? and why is sonar the only daw that i cant do this in?  
jeff youre spot on about reaktor. the only way i can capture this stuff in a show is by running a line out from the mixing board to a digital recorder or using reaktors built in recorder as you mentioned. 
why did 4'33 ever need to be recorded if every performance was different? 


for doing art installations with algorithmically generated sounds it can be necessary for arts funding as many institutions want to see the final work or have a recprd of it.


i loveworking with controlled randomness in reason and resampling textures which recording from vsts and combinators allows me to do. im a bit of a mad scientist though and delve deeply into experimental uses of software. 


if cake could get this feature and the ability to correctly route midi out from multiple soft synths it would be my only daw.

John


Jeff if those synths are not triggered by MIDI how do they know what note to play?  Also how does one "play" one? Then, I thought Reaktor did respond to MIDI.