How does Sonar see my keyboard?

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How does Sonar see my keyboard?

I have a Yamaha keyboard that is both a  Midi controller using USB and my default piano instrument for my projects. Normally with a new project it works fine when I set the input to Omni and the  output to the piano. But with old projects that were created before I owned this particular piano, I always have trouble getting Sonar to play it properly. Because the project is old, the piano tracks are set to different ins and outs. I will set the input and output to the correct new settings, but it still won't play unless I "jiggle" it by hitting one of the hardware instrument selection buttons on the piano itself while playing back. Mind you, it doesn't do to hit the button before I start playback. So I have to hit Space to play and THEN poke one of the instrument buttons to get the piano to sound. I tried creating a new track in this old project and set the ins and outs there, but it's the same problem. How do I get it so that Sonar recognizes the new piano without my having to go through that?

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    jkoseattle
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    Re: How does Sonar see my keyboard? 2016/06/01 22:00:05 (permalink)
    No really, can someone reply?

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    Re: How does Sonar see my keyboard? 2016/06/02 06:02:52 (permalink)
    Which Yamaha Keyboard?
     
    Same problem with newly created sequences?
     
    Have you tried cutting and pasting the old tracks into a brand new project?

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    jkoseattle
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    Re: How does Sonar see my keyboard? 2016/06/02 10:03:27 (permalink)
    It's a Yamaha P-105. Newly created projects are just fine - it only happens in projects created before I bought this keyboard.
     
    I tried cutting and pasting into a new project, whose track was already set up for the proper output, though input was incorrect. Strange, when I first played back, no audio. Hitting one of the keyboard buttons this time, however, did not work. Then I changed the INPUT to Omni, and now it plays back fine.

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    Audio Interface: M-Audio Delta
    Computer: Dell i5 3.1 GHz, 12Gb RAM, Windows 10 64-bit
    Soft Synths: EastWest PLAY Symphonic Orchestra
    MIDI Controllers: M-Audio 2x2 MidiSport Anniv Edition
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    Re: How does Sonar see my keyboard? 2016/06/02 11:04:01 (permalink)
    Do your old projects have bank/program changes that are recognized by your new keyboard? Your description of "it doesn't do to hit the button before I start playback" sounds like the project sends a bank/pgm change at the start of playback.

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    Re: How does Sonar see my keyboard? 2016/06/02 18:18:33 (permalink)
    The fact that cutting and pasting changes your symptoms with the old files indicates you may have some hidden data in the tracks.  I agree with bvideo that is could be some random patch/program change commands.  Check the event list for the tracks.  I always disable recording and sending of patch/program changes in Preferences since I can never seem to get them working right.
     
    Also, that Yamaha P-105 may not have the most robust MIDI implementation.  Buy it seems you've been using it with SONAR for a while so you probably know better than me.

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