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How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
Can't figure it out.  I've got markers and all that good stuff but I can't set an end time to the song. How does one do that? Every time I play back the recording it keeps going for two minutes even after the song finishes. I export the entire recording but the finished wave also includes a good two minutes of nothing after the song ends. Can anyone help? Thanks!
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 13:26:19
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for exporting, you can simply drag your mouse along the timeline for the part that you want exported. the highlighted area will follow your snap to grid settings.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 13:58:46
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 14:56:10
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yea, I have the same problem. Something to do with envelopes I think, as they go on forever.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 15:05:20
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I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear. Is there a way of making a begining and end time for the project? I know how to export the project to a final wave. That is not the problem.
As in the above pic, my global setiings are the same. But how do I set the end time so Sonar knows were to stop? For example: My project ends at 202:01:000 but Sonar keeps playing until 234:01:000.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 15:27:26
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I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear. Is there a way of making a begining and end time for the project? I know how to export the project to a final wave. That is not the problem.
As in the above pic, my global setiings are the same. But how do I set the end time so Sonar knows were to stop? For example: My project ends at 202:01:000 but Sonar keeps playing until 234:01:000.
There may be a way to manually set an end time but I'm not aware of it. As far as I know this is set automatically. What you might try is select all with the cursor where you want the project to end and then use the split tool, or press s, to split the project there. Then click and drag the timeline to the right past where it is stopping and then hit delete. There must be something there that may not be visible but is part of the project. Could be automation as timidi suggests. Could be something else. Make sure that the looping and punch-in tools are not enabled and that their ranges do not extend past where you want the project to stop.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 16:32:14
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Yep there are envelopes. And it goes on endlessly. Tried Split tool but nothing. No loops no snap to grid, (I never use that). This is frustrating. This is pretty stupid not to be able to control the end and begining of a project.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 16:49:03
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Yep there are envelopes. And it goes on endlessly. Tried Split tool but nothing. No loops no snap to grid, (I never use that). This is frustrating. This is pretty stupid not to be able to control the end and begining of a project.
Envelopes should be easy to fix if that is your problem. Just delete any nodes that extend past where you want the end to be..
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 17:02:39
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Did that. After the end of the project the envelopes turn into dashes with no nodes. I can push play and this thing will go on after that till it reaches 234:01:000. Still can't figure why Sonar doesn't let me choose the end, (Thru Time).
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 17:20:37
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I'd sure like to take a look at that project file.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 17:40:48
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I have had many projects which have envelopes with no nodes past the "end of the song" but the playback will continue regardless of that box being checked or not. there's always been a "bug" in the envelopes in that regard. the only hard thing I can tie it to is when an envelope gets the "dashed" line past the end then it reads it continuously and so continues to play. the only way I know of to make the dashed line back into a solid line is to delete the envelope and start over. 99.9% of the time it's not worth that much effort.
for this very reason I wish cakewalk would implement an "end of song marker" and even a "begining of song" marker.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 17:42:54
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All I can say is that this project did end at 234:01:000 at one time but then I chopped off the time by editing to make it a shorter song. I know the old tracks are archived in the original time. But that's it. The project now is effectively 202:01:000. But the end time does not want to cooperate.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 18:23:12
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All I can say is that this project did end at 234:01:000 at one time but then I chopped off the time by editing to make it a shorter song. I know the old tracks are archived in the original time. But that's it. The project now is effectively 202:01:000. But the end time does not want to cooperate.
Try selecting everything between the range 202-234 with all tracks selected and then Edit>Delete. Tick all the delete options, including "Delete Hole".
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 18:37:13
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I agree that it's an annoying part of Sonar and have had many fights with this myself, Sometimes the opposite happens and a song cuts off abruptly if a MIDI track ends. Have to slip edit a little time in the end so it will catch the sustain. What is needed is the ability to simply delete the timeline past the point you wish it to end. With wave lab it's a simple shift/end/delete
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 21:49:32
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Dreamer
All I can say is that this project did end at 234:01:000 at one time but then I chopped off the time by editing to make it a shorter song. I know the old tracks are archived in the original time. But that's it. The project now is effectively 202:01:000. But the end time does not want to cooperate.
Try selecting everything between the range 202-234 with all tracks selected and then Edit>Delete. Tick all the delete options, including "Delete Hole".
Yep....did that too, (W/Delete hole). Still keeps wanting to end at 234:01:000. 
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/02 22:14:02
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Are any of your tracks hidden? If so, I suggest making everything visible while trying to figure out what is going on.
Do you have Options>Non-Destructive Midi Editing enabled?
I also suggest taking a look at the Event List View and seeing if any Midi notes have any abnormally long durations near the end of your project.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/03 08:24:26
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Have you got any muted clips in the project? If so, try un-muting them briefly and see what happens.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/03 11:06:36
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Thanks for th MIDI suggestions but I strickly work with audio no MIDI. I guess this is an issue to raise. I too like having control of were my project begins and were it ends. Sonar is automated and will not allow for this. I figured a work around which I don't like but it stopped the menacing 'auto' end time. As I had written before the project was longer and I edited it for a shorter piece. Older archived tracks which reflected the older longer track times were hidden as I am accustomed to hiding archived tracks. Once I deleted the archived tracks Sonar stopped recognizing the old end time of 234:01:000 and recognized the newer end time of 202:01:00. Pretty much what you guys summed up. But I thought archived tracks would have no bearing on an existing project? Oh well....thanks guys! You's guys are awesome.
post edited by Dreamer - 2011/09/03 11:11:18
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/03 12:47:51
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Those darned hidden tracks will get you every time. 
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/03 13:09:40
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Select all tracks from the end to where it stops and use View Event List to see what's keeping it playing. If nothing in there go backwards a few measures at a time and find some event with a long duration.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2011/09/03 17:22:22
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Interesting find. I have a project that I was working on last night that is all midi. It stopped at, say, 105:1:00. Once I added DM (for some additional sounds), it now doesn't stop, but continues on like the OPs issue. I checked the Event list, but nothing's showing up. Any ideas? by the way, there are no hidden tracks. 
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 00:38:38
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I think maybe the question and the answer are not syncing.
Example - I have a 30 minute 4-track tape I want to lay down as 4 separate tracks in Soanr. Don't get lost in the details here, its not important except for the 30 minutes of tape. Here is what we want to do: Hit the "Play" button on the analog 4-track input device and hit the "Record" button in Sonar. Ok... we're recording. Now - I want to go to bed! I want my Sonar system to STOP recording in 30 minutes. I can't be there to hit the STOP button in Sonar. I don't want to continuously record while I sleep, only to wake up and say dammit I'm out of hard drive space because I only had 30 minutes of audio to record and Sonar just kept recording and recording and recording...
Get it?
I want to set it... and forget it....
(So, is that what you were looking for? If not - sorry man. But that's what I am looking for! LOL)
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 03:25:50
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This is a 4 year old thread, I'm sure he's figured it out by now
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 03:50:32
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This is a 4 year old thread, I'm sure he's figured it out by now
Has he? Is there an answer? This is still one of the most common issues on this forum, and has always been. I face it frequently. No matter what's in the project, one single audio track without automation or FX, or a 40 track one with all possible stuff. Sometimes it stops, sometimes not. Not a biggie to me, though, as I've settled with 8.5 and I know there's no help coming. IIRC what I've read on the forum, the problem still exists in the newer versions (?).
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 04:01:27
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The solution, as it's always been, is to swipe in the time ruler to export exactly what you want, no more & no less.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 07:12:44
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I have all my projects set to "Stop at Project End" under the options menu in the Track view. I know that doesn't solve the issues many are mentioning, but it's easy to miss.
Hope this helps a few people.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 07:15:18
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Bristol_Jonesey
The solution, as it's always been, is to swipe in the time ruler to export exactly what you want, no more & no less.
That's not actually a solution, though your condescension is impressive. What if you have a project running multi-track backing, lights, program changes etc, and all you want it to do is stop at the end. Not really too much to ask. Kalle is right. This problem certainly still exists. I am running Platinum. I have about 300 projects for my live show, all of which have been updated and re-saved in platinum. Five of them will not stop at the end and no matter what I do, and there is no data further along the timeline. Also not a biggie for me, but annoying.
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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 08:43:53
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I recently wrote to Cakewalk with this and a related problem and said - " that some of my projects were 2 or 3 times the length that they should be. I suspected that the problem related to insertion of a sample because it would not insert the sample where I wanted it and would place it at least 3 minutes away from where my song should have ended. Even if selected undo and not place the sample at all, it seemed to remember the extended project length". Cakewalk replied and said - "You can avoid this behavior by going to Edit > Preferences > File > Audio Data and uncheck the 'Always Import Broadcast Waves at Their Timestamp' check box. Then, click Apply and Close.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 09:02:11
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☄ Helpfulby Thedoccal 2015/07/22 10:13:07
tenfoot
Bristol_Jonesey
The solution, as it's always been, is to swipe in the time ruler to export exactly what you want, no more & no less.
That's not actually a solution, though your condescension is impressive. What if you have a project running multi-track backing, lights, program changes etc, and all you want it to do is stop at the end. Not really too much to ask.
Kalle is right. This problem certainly still exists. I am running Platinum. I have about 300 projects for my live show, all of which have been updated and re-saved in platinum. Five of them will not stop at the end and no matter what I do, and there is no data further along the timeline. Also not a biggie for me, but annoying.
How on earth was that condescending? Why is it that all of my projects stop exactly at the end of the last piece of data, where they should be stopping? If you'd bother to read the countless number of threads on this topic, the conclusion is 100% clear - there is ALWAYS something further down the timeline which has not been picked up by the user. This could be, but is not restricted to, Meter/key changes, envelope nodes, tempo changes, midi data, data in archived tracks, data in hidden tracks, data in hidden busses, audio data imported at the wrong time stamp.
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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar?
2015/07/20 10:12:04
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Not sure if you've resolved this
Not sure if in properties/clip inspector if it is possible to set length/end time, and/or select track sections and bounce into a single clip, and/or normalize comp tracks, I know I had this issue at one time, but don't remember exactly how I resolved it, and now its just integrated into part of my workflow, or if a patch fixed it, but don't seem to have issue any more, if I recall on next project Ill post.
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