How long does your DAW take to boot?

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2012/06/05 09:03:32 (permalink)

How long does your DAW take to boot?

And by that I mean, from the time you power your computer on, how long before you can start using Sonar without any pops or bleeps?
 
I find I have to let my computer (quad core 64 bit 8 GB RAM, W7) go for a good four to six minutes after logging in before the HD-in-use light goes out. If I start Sonar before that, I am just asking for a lengthy wait.
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    ltb
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 09:11:50 (permalink)
    I wait & open X1 when all the drivers are done loading, 30 seconds or so.
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 09:17:35 (permalink)
    jim,mine is about 4 minutes,so yours isnt far off.
    you can go into your bios and probably untick a few things in there.

    when your computer starts it does a random check of all your hardware to make sure everything is working okay.
    maybe yours is sticking on something for that extra 2 mins.
    a hard drive,ram?

    i find in most cases its the hd,its a weakened sector that you computer stalls on.

    but thats not to say you should probably go through your start up items and "86" a few of the not so needed ones.
    msconfig/start up.
    while your there look at services(just turn off  "see windows services")
    that way its easier to sift threw what you got in there.

    im sure you probably already know this though and have made the adjustments.

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    post edited by chuckebaby - 2012/06/05 09:21:03

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 09:39:08 (permalink)
    I have a custom built quad core i7, 64 bit, 16 GB ram, W7 music computer that is not on the internet, thus no anti-stuff, that has been tweaked for music production. It takes me around 30 seconds.
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 10:32:50 (permalink)
    I have an SSD, that makes a big difference


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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 11:53:10 (permalink)
    My computer takes at least several minutes to launch Sonar, mainly I think because of all of my VSTs which it always scans before it launches. I have heard that there is a way to disable the scan but I have never done it.

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 12:15:31 (permalink)
    James,

    I can start SONAR within moments after I log on if my RME Fireface UFX is already on when I boot up.

    The computer boot up process seems to be about 30-40 seconds. The ADK laptop is slightly longer (I have databases and web servers on that machine for 'local' testing).

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 12:43:29 (permalink)
    Here is one of the posts I was thinking of in reference to the vsts. http://forum.cakewalk.com...h=disable+vst+scanning Hardware is a definite consideration. A fast i7 chip with SSHD will load everything faster.Disabling vst loading will help.

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 15:02:13 (permalink)
    If it's taking several minutes before you can do anything in Sonar, it might be scanning all VST's when you first start Sonar. If you have a lot of plug-ins, it can take awhile. You can turn that off. No need to scan them everytime you start Sonar. I have a lot of VST's. Never scan them on boot-up. They always work fine. My daw boots up in 20 -30 seconds and it's not a new one by any means.
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 15:46:17 (permalink)
    No, I wasn't talking about Sonar per se. If I don't wait until that HD light is off before launching Sonar, the time until I can actaully do anything in it is pretty bad.

    And I don't scan VSTs.
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 16:05:42 (permalink)
    I don't normally shut down my computer unless it needs to reboot for an update or something or I'm not going to be using it for a while - I just turn off my monitor and then I turn it back on and ready to go in seconds. I'm sure there's a downside to this but hasn't caused me any problems.
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 17:23:37 (permalink)
    jamesyoyo


    No, I wasn't talking about Sonar per se. If I don't wait until that HD light is off before launching Sonar, the time until I can actaully do anything in it is pretty bad.

    And I don't scan VSTs.

    Shouldn't be like that. My "ancient" Pentium 4 internet pc (which has two HD's almost full) still takes under a minute to be up and running from a cold boot.
     
     
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/05 18:45:22 (permalink)
    Some service(s) on a delayed start may be the cause or, may be indicating/emphasizing another problem that could be hardware related. Have you scanned your OS drive lately for bad sectors? How full/fragmented is the OS drive? Have you made any changes recently that involved the swap/paging file or anything else? Was it a full moon when you noticed this happening for the first time? 

    But to confirm, that's a long time (ridiculously long time) to wait to start working...
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/06 14:35:26 (permalink)
     Defragmenting the HDD is probably one of the things I do the least often....and it's free. I wonder if one of his memory sticks went out?

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/13 08:01:57 (permalink)
    I've built and repaired PC's for about 12 years now. What's most likely happening at start-up is Windows is trying to sift through all the useless processes and crap installed on your PC.   

    The best thing for a fast PC is to not install a bunch of garbage on it.  Especially your DAW machine.  I don't install screensavers, or flashy things that alter the OS in some way.  I don't go online with my DAW machine so I don't use any anti-virus (major resource hog).  I don't download any updates from windows either, unless there is a specific update for a problem I'm having (which hasn't ever happened).  They are always just security updates, and whenever I install any of them, my memory usage goes up.  I also disable all updates, notifications and any services that aren't necessity for Win to run.  I also NEVER let anyone on my DAW machine. No exceptions.  The less processes and updates you have, the better your machine is going to run.  If you hit Ctrl-Alt-Del or even better, hold shift-control with your thumb and hit esc with your index finger it skips the log screen and takes you right to the task manager.  If you have 60 or more processes running after you hit show processes from all users, you have way to much crap on you PC. .After your PC warms up and is idle (no hd light flashing or anything) your CPU usage should be 0%.  With 8 GB of memory,  your physical memory be at around 8-10%.  I have 4GB and at idle I have 0 cpu and use about 14% physical memory.
    Even if you buy a PC new from a retailer. They all come loaded with garbage.  Removing useless progs from your PC will help, but there's nothing like a fresh clean install of Windows minus the garbage.  The key is to resist installing things you don't really need.

    I have an older dual core amd with 4 GB memory on Win 7 Ultimate, and I can start playing a song in sonar in under 2 minutes from the time I hit the start button on my tower.  If you can, you'd be better off to use a cheap pc or laptop for internet and stuff and try to keep your DAW machine free of unnecessary software.



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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/13 08:42:18 (permalink)
    Less than a minute on both my systems

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/13 10:26:00 (permalink)
    After post, 10-15 seconds. once on, a soft restart is 10 seconds.

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/13 16:04:20 (permalink)
    From off to on and my DAW up and running I'd say 60ish seconds. 
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/13 16:11:16 (permalink)
     I recently cut out VST scanning and now it starts up like greased lightening.

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/13 21:17:49 (permalink)
    I have a Western Digital USB drive I backup my projects on. If it's plugged in when I boot up, it takes 6 + minutes. If I have it unplugged, maybe 45 ~ 60 seconds.

    Slow boot-up time is a problem with some USB HDD's. If I had to guess, it's probably something to do with the plug n play part of the mobo bios. Totally guessing there.

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/14 01:47:58 (permalink)
    3-4 min.  I have roughly a million (give or take) programs installed on my DAW..which serves as my general all around PC  PC. 


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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/14 02:07:10 (permalink)
    Have you tried launching msconfig and selecting "selective start up"? You can disable some or all programs that auto-loads. It's a easy way to identify which program is causing the delay if it's software related. Once the program is identified you can select normal start up. It's a neat little diagnostic tool.
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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/14 07:32:55 (permalink)
    About 30-45 Seconds from power to play, I also have a dedicated ADK DAW that has never been on line since I bought it.

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/16 21:16:49 (permalink)
    Have a look and better yet back-up your registry and see how big of a file it is. That usually plays a pretty big role in boot time.

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/16 22:25:44 (permalink)
    I think mine is about 20-25 seconds


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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/19 01:07:28 (permalink)
    Takes about 30 seconds to start my machine, about 1.5 starting Sonar 8.

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    Re:How long does your DAW take to boot? 2012/06/19 22:48:30 (permalink)
    not long
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