The Maillard Reaction
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/13 13:40:53
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Depends, does the tone control go to -11?
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michaelhanson
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/13 14:56:51
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Depends on who's speaking. It's all about the bazz.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/13 15:52:11
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The link in the OP was from a speaker manufacturer and is useful while explaining one reason why speakers "sound different" at different playback levels. This chart has the relative loudness expressed as SPL...  ... and it would seem to provide all sorts of useful info to anyone hoping to listen to a wide bandwidth of sound at what might be described as quiet listening levels. It might also suggest how proximity effect can be beneficial to anyone recording a wide bandwidth of sound at what might be described as quiet listening levels.
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Grem
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/13 16:56:08
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Mike this is a topic that I have in the past called very subjective. I have learned, the hard way, there is no such thing as " bedroom" volume. I have come to realize that I like the feel of the air moving around me when I play.
So what I "feel" is ummph maybe different than your "feel." And I can say with almost certainty that it is not what some call "bedroom" volume!
Though I wonder what that response curve would look like with those half watt, milliwatt amps?
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/13 20:36:25
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Are we having phon yet?
Ha, I crack me up
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Grem
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/13 23:10:52
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Grem
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/16 18:36:51
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well,
in terms of recording,
the PROXIMITY effect can be used to taylor the eq of a particular sound source,
especially miced guitar cabs.
used properly, you can add lots of 'oomph' without a lot of volume or speaker excursion.
but to get the meatiest sounds, volume does play a part.
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/17 11:52:42
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To be serious, it also depends on the type of speaker system you own. Traditional closed box and ported speakers will lose bass frequency response at low levels. Switch to a transmission line design like PMC monitors and you will hear a relatively consistent bass ummph even at low levels.
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/17 14:25:05
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Depends on how close your ear is to the sound.
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TomHelvey
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/17 22:19:07
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120 db A weighted SPL @ 3 meters
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Re: How loud does a speaker need to be for the bass to go "ummph"?
2014/12/18 11:45:50
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120 db A weighted SPL @ 3 meters A fantastic ummph followed shortly after by death. But so worth it.
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