Beepster
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 19:30:28
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BTW I'm stuck on my ass right waiting for something else to happen so I figured I'd try to reply to you guys while I'm waiting. Cheers.
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craigb
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 19:55:45
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Beepster Whoa... lotso post. Sorry. Got caught up in my other threads. @Danny Danzi... How are ya? I actually heard some of your work on a CHB track Bapu linked me to. You are quite good. Super clean like Vai. It's apparent you locked yourself in a room at some point to focus on your chops. I've gone through about 4 or 5 of those phases in my 20+ years of playing but always ended up getting pulled back out of my hidey hole for live gigging. Almost ten years ago I went through one of those periods and just sat down with my scale/chord books and started making charts of everything. I mapped out all the modes and chords for all the major keys then picked up a university level theory book to test out my work. It all fit perfectly. That shot my knowledge level through the roof but knowing it and being able to actually play it are obviously two different things. I ended up getting pulled away from those studies for work and band stuff again but implemented as much of that knowledge as possible into my day to day playing. Over the past two years I've delved back into the theory but this time hammered away at it physically on my guitar. Now I can play every mode of all 12 keys at every position on the neck as well as play all the first position triads to the second octave (rising up the high E when needed) and low E to high E chords (kind of like 6 string bar chords but actually using all the 1 3 5 steps in the arpeggio) rising up the neck for every key arpeggiated. I've got my time down for this routine to 12 minutes. I play all this following the circle of fifths and start each key's routine by playing it's Ionian root in first position. By doing this I have gained so much control over my playing it's sick. Now I can apply this method to all other diatonic scales as well as use it to map out pretty much anything with relative ease. Sadly my hands don't move as well as they used to due to abusing them at work and elsewhere over the years so unless I do like a 3 or 4 hour warm up I can't get the super clean style going like I used to. That's fine though because I like my playing a little raunchy anyway. As far as the computer stuff I was referring to learning all this modern DAW mayhem. I do however spend a little too much time poking around on the internet but if I go too crazy on real computer work or physically playing my pain levels go through the roof and I'm completely useless so I gotta keep my mind occupied in my down time. Right now I just want to get the backlog of albums I have stored in my brain recorded and see where that takes me. Cheers. I couldn't be bothered to take that much time so I just hit any note I want any time I want and tell people I play Jazz... (And, for all of you "real" Jazz players out there, I'M JUST KIDDING!!!)
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Beepster
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 20:10:26
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@craigb... Heh, yeah it's pretty nerdy and actually my next goal is to conquer jazz theory but that's not why I did it. It's helped with almost every style I play and get a more grounded understanding of... well, everything musical. Even just understanding chord construction is ridiculously useful.
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craigb
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 20:18:20
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Beepster @craigb... Heh, yeah it's pretty nerdy and actually my next goal is to conquer jazz theory but that's not why I did it. It's helped with almost every style I play and get a more grounded understanding of... well, everything musical. Even just understanding chord construction is ridiculously useful. Oh, no need to explain to me! If this were a nerd contest, you'd be in a distant second place. Instead of actually learning how to play and improving my chops, I have spreadsheets that detail every possible scale and mode that can be made from our normal 12-tone system along with any known name for that scale/mode. I also have hundreds of worksheets detailing all possible chords that can be made from said scales (including chord progressions). This tome isn't completely finished, but it's close enough for people to wonder why. LOL! Add several other documents for different musical aspects and I think I've got the nerd crown all sewn up. Someday I'm hoping to discover the "Grand Unification" theory for learning all of this (printing it out and sleeping with it under my pillow doesn't seem to work). Until then, I think I'll just practice every day until I get play squeelies as well as Danny...
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Beepster
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 20:28:44
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Dude... the tonal grand unification theory is exactly what I've been working on. I finally broke the barrier with this last blast of study. It's sweet dude... so sweet... so powerful. Now that I have the template in my mind I'm twisting it to my whims and it is almost frightening. I can finally say I have a true command of the entire fretboard. I can map it instantly in my mind and (more or less) make my fingers do the talking. We should totally hang. When you gonna finish that guitar BTW?
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Beepster
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 20:32:03
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And I'm glad I didn't pull out the computer today. The meatworld called and I have to deal with meatworld shenanigans for the next few days. Just when I was getting my head wrapped around creating MIDI drum tracks. Oh well. Cheers.
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craigb
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 20:32:11
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Need a new job and a new place to live first. Working on both right now...
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Beepster
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 20:35:11
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Well I meant on the intarweb. I'm no fun in real life. I always like talking guitar theory though. :-)
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Beepster
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 20:38:05
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derp... you meant the guitar. Looks like you're going for PRS style body. Very nice.
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craigb
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 20:50:09
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All of mine are actually based on a Les Paul Double-cut style, but since that's where some of the PRS styles come from (like the one's Santana uses), I guess that's close! The scale is 25", which is the PRS scale, with the 14" radius from a Music Man Axis. Can't wait... Can't wait... Can't wait... Can't wait... Can't wait... Can't wait...
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/18 21:02:04
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Well look at it this way. You're giving the wood a chance to age a bit before carving into it.
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/19 09:13:40
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Hi, Not a whole lot lately ... in fact the bass is in the case and I have given up the music thing for a bit ... I have been too busy writing/finishing a novel ... and am not bothering with anything else until that is done. It's a story about addiction ... and has massive trips ... and at this point doesn't need music. I have started work on the radio show ... and have all the materials that I am looking to use up together ... but have not decided if I am going to play 3 things at the same time, and record it, or if I can do one or two and then add things over it. Having issues with DAW related processes and not able to get help from anyone that knows so dang much ... so ... the heck with it ... not worth time wasting it. I have "written" what I want to do and say as a short story in the mean time, and I don't care if I get help or not. Just tired of knowitalls that talk a mile aminute but never show up when the trip is coming! As they say ... you gotta do it yourself, anyway ... and I can hear Mike Heron singing it ... so ... to all the helpers ... get lost!
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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Re:How often do you put away all the computer stuff and just play your instrument?
2012/06/19 11:04:12
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I have to fire up the DAW to get to the piano vst's that I wind up playing for a bit. Then, while playing, I come upon a riff that has to be recorded and the songwriting process has begun again. It's never-ending.
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