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How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
What's the best way to auditon MIDI drum loops?
The only way I can see to do this would be the "Import MIDI" dialog box, where theoretically I should be able to press "Play" and hear a loop before importing it. I would hope that the loop would play in Sync with my song, which is already palying. Unfortunately I can't get this to work, because it seems no matter what MIDI loop I choose to play I get the error message "Cannot play this MIDI loop". Doesn't make any difference if it's a MIDI groove clip, Type 1 or Type 0, it still won't play. However, if I click "Import" my MIDI loops play fine. Any one else seen this?
Cliff
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/23 07:58:04
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There are several threads on audition midi loops. Check HERE.
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/23 20:24:50
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Thanks,
Can't see an answer to the problem with Import MIDI?
I have S4PE. Doesn't make any difference what Synth I use, S4PE says it can't play the MIDI file, yet it has no problem importing it. Same problem for all MIDI file formats. User error or bug?
Cliff
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/23 20:40:43
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ORIGINAL: Somerset
Thanks,
Can't see an answer to the problem with Import MIDI?
I have S4PE. Doesn't make any difference what Synth I use, S4PE says it can't play the MIDI file, yet it has no problem importing it. Same problem for all MIDI file formats. User error or bug?
Cliff
I'm betting it's neither. I think there are a lot more issues with midi files (outputs, channels, patches, banks) then can be addressed by a simple "audition" like a .wav. A midi "loop" is still a file, and each one of the things I mentioned above have to be addressed before it can be played, and it is not likely that S4 has a "default" in place just for this purpose. I think (for now) it has to be imported to be played. Anybody? Brian
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/23 21:54:16
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Thanks Brian,
You are probably right. Maybe the "play" button should be "greyed out" though, to avoid confusion if it really isn't an available option. The help file does not mention the "play" button that is in the Import MIDI dialog box. I wasn't sure what to make of that.
I am new to using MIDI drum loops, and always used to use audio loops. However, I just got Reason DrumKits Refill. This is an excellent drum package - unbelievable actually. Now my MIDI drum loops sound great, but finding the right loop is time consuming.
I was hoping someone knew a "work-around".
Cliff
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/24 06:59:05
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I think there are a lot more issues with midi files (outputs, channels, patches, banks) then can be addressed by a simple "audition" like a .wav.
A midi "loop" is still a file, and each one of the things I mentioned above have to be addressed before it can be played, and it is not likely that S4 has a "default" in place just for this purpose.
Brian
By the way, all of the things you mentioned are already set up before invoking the "Import MIDI" dialogue box. First I set up a drum synth, then I assign a MIDI channel to it, and then from that MIDI channel I select "Import MIDI". Pressing the "Play" button on the Import dialogue box could work - although it doesn't seem to. Without needing any more definition, I just hit "Open" and the loop will play straight away, after importing.
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/24 08:18:44
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One of the best apps I have seen that deals with auditioning and playing midi loops is ACID Pro 4/5. It uses the exact same paradigm for using audio loops. You use the same Loop Explorer to audition both midi & audio loops, drag & drop to the timeline and then roll them out (paint), with the pencil or paint tool. It is easy, quick & seamless. It just takes too long to audtion midi loops in SONAR. In the amount of time it would take to audition one midi loop, during live playback, in SONAR, I could already have gone through scores of midi loops, directly from the Loop Explorer, in complete tempo sync, in ACID. What is nice now, is that with the new ACID 5 Pro version, you can now rewire ACID to SONAR and use it's superior loop explorer & media manager to find, audition and use any loop (audio or midi), in a matter of seconds, while synced to SONAR. Works like a charm.
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/24 08:49:12
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ORIGINAL: Somerset
By the way, all of the things you mentioned are already set up before invoking the "Import MIDI" dialogue box. First I set up a drum synth, then I assign a MIDI channel to it, and then from that MIDI channel I select "Import MIDI". Pressing the "Play" button on the Import dialogue box could work - although it doesn't seem to. Without needing any more definition, I just hit "Open" and the loop will play straight away, after importing.
Exactly what I mean! Until it is imported, it seems like Sonar just can't apply the assignments. Sonar is set up, but you can't access the sequencer until you import. Brian
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/24 22:19:18
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ORIGINAL: Billy Buck
One of the best apps I have seen that deals with auditioning and playing midi loops is ACID Pro 4/5. It uses the exact same paradigm for using audio loops.
You use the same Loop Explorer to audition both midi & audio loops, drag & drop to the timeline and then roll them out (paint), with the pencil or paint tool.
It is easy, quick & seamless. It just takes too long to audtion midi loops in SONAR. In the amount of time it would take to audition one midi loop, during live playback, in SONAR, I could already have gone through scores of midi loops, directly from the Loop Explorer, in complete tempo sync, in ACID. What is nice now, is that with the new ACID 5 Pro version, you can now rewire ACID to SONAR and use it's superior loop explorer & media manager to find, audition and use any loop (audio or midi), in a matter of seconds, while synced to SONAR. Works like a charm.
Thanks Billy, I'll check out ACID. Sounds like the way to go. I haven't seen anything else that works this way. Maybe a future upgrade to Sonar or P5 will fix it. Cliff
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/24 22:23:27
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Exactly what I mean! Until it is imported, it seems like Sonar just can't apply the assignments. Sonar is set up, but you can't access the sequencer until you import.
Brian
The thing that confused me here is the "Play" button on the Import MIDI dialogue. It doesn't appear to do anything. Thanks guys for your responses. Cliff
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/29 11:46:03
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And now on to the real news . . . . I downloaded free drum loops from Groove Monkee last night, and lo and behold, they audition right thru the importing midi dialog box  Interesting thing is, I don't have anything set up to audition them with! I use ASIO drivers on my LX6, so the drums don't come from my HP Crapcard - I don't have the VSC set up anywhere . . . Very Strange. Feel free to insert comment here_____________________________! 
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/29 15:21:27
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How do you like the groove monkey loops, i was thinking of buying them?
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/29 16:07:14
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How do you like the groove monkey loops, i was thinking of buying them?
So far, so good. Try the freebies in the download place. I am thinking about buying some myself! Brian
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RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2004/12/30 00:11:21
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I use Winamp to audition MIDI loops.
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Re: RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2018/02/23 12:18:35
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Try using the media browser (if your version has it). Open the browser (from views), select
media tab and find your midi files. In the media tabs drop down menu there are options to choose the
playback synth etc. You can import from the browser also by double clicking the item.
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Re: RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2018/02/23 15:52:40
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Your solution would not have worked in 2004. There was no need to drag up this old thread.
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Re: RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2018/02/23 16:01:24
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Sorry didn't pick up the date. However, the "play" button on the midi import still doesn't work and this is what I found when I went searching for an answer ... then I found the browser.
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Re: RE: How to audition MIDI Drum Loops?
2018/02/23 17:17:45
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neilbass
Sorry didn't pick up the date. However, the "play" button on the midi import still doesn't work and this is what I found when I went searching for an answer ... then I found the browser.
There was no Browser 14 years ago.
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