How to change Key+ setting for multiple selected tracks in X1 versions ?

 
In Sonar versions previous to X1, key+ setting could be changed for multiple selected tracks by going to the menu Tracks-->Key+ or something like that.
 
But I didnt get that option when I tried the X1 web trial. Also, it is not to be seen in X1 LE as well. The Key+ option is only there for each track in the inspector section.
 
Is it that the key+, time+ etc, can be changed for tracks only one by one now in X1 or am I missing something ? I hope I am missing something because it would be cumbersome to change the key+, say, for 20 tracks or more, one by one !

Key+ or - was the option in the tracks menu in 8.5 that allowed you to change the key of multiple tracks at one touch if all were selected....i`d like to know how to do the same in X1 myself Jonesey..any idea?

They took that function away in X1. 

Yes, we are talking midi here and it is under the "process, transpose" menu now, thanks for that blade!

damon777


Key+ or - was the option in the tracks menu in 8.5 that allowed you to change the key of multiple tracks at one touch if all were selected....i`d like to know how to do the same in X1 myself Jonesey..any idea?

Its still there.

Rightly put vintagevibe. Process-->Transpose was always there along with Tracks-->Key+ in previous versions. So, its in no way a substitute for key+. As rightly pointed out by vintagevibe, key+ is non-destructive and one can always see what the original key is and how much is transposed non-destructively by key+ whereas process--->transpose can only be reversed either by undo or by actually applying the transpose in reverse, whereas with key+ you simply need to change the number whichever way you want.

The way each one works in piano roll is like this : If Process--->Transpose of 5 steps is applied to a track, a 'C' note is actually moved to 'F' and correspondingly all other notes. Whereas if Key+ of 5 is applied to the track, the original 'C' note in the piano roll stays as 'C', however when you play back, 'C' will play as 'F' and correspondingly all other notes. Now, this feature is great when you have to try different scales and come back to original if needed. To play back the original, you just need to set the key+ back to '0'. The big advantage is that your originally composed keys and scales don't have to be disturbed throughout your project till completion.

Now this feature is retained on each MIDI track as John pointed out, but cant apply to multiple tracks at once because it doesnt appear on the menu anymore from where you could apply it after selecting multiple tracks.

I still hope we are missing it somewhere in the X1 interface because its hard to understand why this useful function should be removed. Same applies to Time+ as well.

vintagevibe


I pointed this out to one of the mods here and they just said "put in a feature feature request".  There are so many functions  that they took out of X1 that I'd have to spend several hours writing feature requests so I haven't done it.  I'm too busy.

Very true about quite a few useful functions being taken out of X1. Its funny though that they ask you to put in feature requests for features that already existed and were taken out for no reason really ! I thought feature requests were for new useful features that one could think of and dont exist yet.


X1 is so amazing with this new fresh interface, quick workflow and all, but retaining some of the useful functions would be really nice, especially the complete set of menu bar functions that existed in 8.5 and before. I mean, a menu bar still exists within the skylight which is so good, then why not have the full set of functions that were there previously. That way we could have the best of both worlds, the previous menu oriented one and the new skylight.


Anyways, I've just put in a feature request to include the full menu bar functions within X1 (for all versions from LE to Producer, expanded, etc....), hope someone at Cakewalk has a look and considers. Guess a simple patch update should do the trick ? 


Wonder.....

And I received no reply to the feature request that I put and they dont seem to send back any email acknowledging that too.

Does anyone know how a feature request status can be tracked ? Or is it just plain luck that it may or may not be looked at ?

Thanks FastBikerBoy.

Wonder if there is any way for a number of users like us to put in a combined request. This is simply a feature that existed and not any new one. So, surely must not involve any coding from scratch or anything.

I am pretty sure a lot of X1 users would want this feature back but may not have had the time to put in the request. In fact, it would be great to simply have the complete menu options (with all the previous features) that existed in previous versions as X1 has a menu bar anyway. Then why not the complete menu ? 

I am pretty damn sure in doing that, many of the problems people have migrating from 7, 8 or 8.5 to X1 will vanish because at least they have the same menu to fall back onto if using the new interface proves difficult in some areas. Of course, the skylight is amazing and a delight to work on. Its just that the transition would be easier and you could have the best of both ways for you to choose from for your workflow.

Brandon, Seth, Robin, Scott ! Could you guys help to push this somehow ? Just a request.....