How to create this effect?

There's a little bit of info from the man himself here;

http://digitalmedia.oreil...005/03/02/mcguinn.html

I'm thinking technique is the biggest part of it.  Pick close to the bridge and eq roll-off anything bassy.

Thanks guys, I agree technique comes into play, but I'm not after just the tone, which I've got close enough, but in the chord changes, you can hear the compressor kicking in and what I think is a compressor releasing very quickly (sounds kind of like a backwards played track) though I'm pretty sure thats not the case.  I've managed to get a hint of it now and then, but not nearly as defined or repeatable.  As for amps from what I've read, Mcquinn went straight into the console for most of his 12 string work and still does to this day.

I should probably just be satisfied with what I've got so far, but it's become kind of a quest to figure out just how He got that sound.

Dan

I think he just palm mutes at the end of the chord just before the upstroke.  Kinda like you would on a shuffle beat.

I agree marcos, palm muting is involved and the timing is important, but just the muting doesn't give the reverse cutoff sound because all the sound stops and you don't hear the release of the compressor/limiter (which ever is doing it) I think Thatsastart might be right about the delay, that would leave the release something to cutoff.

I did try an auto swell pedal and that does soften the initial attack, but doesn't get the reverse sound cutoff when the chord is muted/changed.

Thatsastrat, you might be onto something.  When I have managed to get the effect I'm pretty sure it's the delay that the compressor or limiter is working on, maybe if I separate out the delay and compress it by itself that will do, so when the guitar sound stops the delay hit a bit later, but gets cut off by the release of the compressor/limiter.  the GR compressor has a fake reverse preset I've been using and maybe acting only on the delayed guitar it will give the desired effect.  Or I might try creating a reverse delay of the track and see what that does.


Dan

here's a snippet of info from http://www.ibiblio.org/ji...nn/ByrdsFAQ.html#sound


At first the Rickenbacker didn't have the sound the Byrds were looking for. One of the engineers at Columbia came up with the idea of recording the guitar directly through the board and not through an amplifier, using tube type electronic compressors, in series, to sustain the guitar sound and give it an even quality. 

Maybe the compressors in series are doing a gating effect that cuts the ring once it gets below a certain threshold.

I had a Digitech pedal years ago that had the backward playing effect.  It had very low attack so you didn't hear the pick and then it would swell and cut off before it decayed.

Something like that mixed with a dry version of the track would do it.  There's got to be a backward plugin out there somewhere.