How to edit multi-channel midi in PRV?

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2013/02/01 22:29:32 (permalink)

How to edit multi-channel midi in PRV?

Hi guys,

Here's the situation I was in last night...(session in Sonar x2a..."overwrite" recording mode, all takes in one track, lanes set to "off")

A client came over to lay-in some midi brass chord lines with his Roland synth.

After recording a few takes, we decided to edit some timing issues in PRV.

In smart tool mode, I select one note and move it to the right, and guess what, there is another note under it...and I wonder, what's going on here....so I move that note and there is still another note under...in short there were three notes on different midi channels layered on top of each other!

The Roland patch he chose to use was a performance mode patch and had five layered samples, each sample transmitting on different key zones and midi channels (i.e, 1,2,3,4,5)!!

So editing his chord lines was going to be a very tedious job...imagine having to trim, and move each midi note at least three times...

So this is my question....
...have any of you come across this situation before (this was my first ...) and if you did, is there a way to simplify the editing process in PRV?

I tried setting the midi input channel of that that track to only channel 1 and not omni and recording again...and as you probably figured out, it only recorded notes transmiting on channel 1, so there were missing voices in his chords...so midi input had to remain at "omni"....

Thanks guys for any help and suggestions!
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    garrigus
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    Re:How to edit multi-channel midi in PRV? 2013/02/01 22:37:16 (permalink)
    So do you want to change all the notes to the same channel after recorded? If so, that's easy... just select the track and type a new channel into the Channel parameter of the Event Inspector module in the Control Bar. See this video...

    * Cakewalk SONAR: Event Inspector Editing
    http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/video.asp?ID=7

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    Re:How to edit multi-channel midi in PRV? 2013/02/01 22:45:58 (permalink)
    Hi Scott, thanks for your reply....

    I considered that option, but if I change all the notes to respond to channel one, then the samples/layers in the synth patch assigned to other midi channels will not play?

    Wouldn't it be the same as assigning midi channel input before recording to channel 1 which we tried, and we got missing notes in the recorded track?

    Thanks.
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    Re:How to edit multi-channel midi in PRV? 2013/02/01 22:53:49 (permalink)
    Hmmm... yeah, I think you're right. It wouldn't be the same though because you'd still have all the layered notes, but they would all play on channel 1, so that probably won't work.

    Wait... try this... instead of clicking the note(s) to select them, right-click and lasso them. That should select all the notes, even the ones underneath. Then you can edit them all at once. That should work.

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    Re:How to edit multi-channel midi in PRV? 2013/02/01 23:25:21 (permalink)
    Try saving it as a MIDI Type 0 File and then when you Open it in a new project, it should ask you if you want to put each channel onto a separate track. See if that still works. 

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    Re:How to edit multi-channel midi in PRV? 2013/02/02 08:02:52 (permalink)
    Hi Scott,

    Just got to my daw a while ago and I'm glad to report that the right-click lasso works!

    Thanks again!

    Vic
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    Re:How to edit multi-channel midi in PRV? 2013/02/02 09:23:49 (permalink)
    Excellent. Glad I could help!

    Scott

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