WhiteSheet
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How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
Hey guys,
I'm new here and not familiar with the habits and customarinesses or whatever of this forum, (also I am using the german version of Sonar X1, wherefore I might not know all the exact english expressions used in the english version of Sonar X1, but anyway) I just ask right away:
Suppose I have created a new synthesizer track and have recorded something on it. Let's say its around 10 seconds long and it's a piano recording.
Now i maybe want to insert an effect, maybe an EQ effect, to make it sound more full or something.
It's perfectly easy and simple to do this for the WHOLE track recording.
BUT: is there a way to edit only small parts of this track, like only the second bar for example, and then again "let it be without any effect", just the plain recording?
Really hope any of you guys know what I'm up to and can help me out,,
Cheers!
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/08 07:29:23
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Welcome -
There are various ways - you could put an effect on a buss and send audio to that buss when you want it using automation (probably not the best for EQ); you could insert the audio FX onto the track and then again, using automation, you can alter the inputs and /or outputs of the FX depending on what you like. You can also do FX at the clips level, but I don't think that is the most common method.
Hope that helps!
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/08 07:30:51
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Use automation to turn the effect on and off (in whatever possible way) whenever you want to.
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What Brian said. I've been trying to post my post for ages but the daft new forum software wouldn't let me...
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/08 08:03:00
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Note that many FX do not have an automatable on/off (it's FX dependable, not a SONAR-thing), so in those cases you need to automate the settings of the FX or use the bus-method. IMO clip FX is a very convenient way to do it as well.
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/08 10:48:08
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☄ Helpfulby WhiteSheet 2013/06/08 12:31:04
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IMO clip FX is a very convenient way to do it as well.
Ditto. Clip effects are very useful. 1) Highlight the section of your track 2) right click and choose Split then "Split at Selection" 3) select and right click your new clip and choose "Insert Effect" The clip you created now has it's own effects bin.
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/08 10:58:18
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Kalle Rantaaho
Note that many FX do not have an automatable on/off (it's FX dependable, not a SONAR-thing), so in those cases you need to automate the settings of the FX or use the bus-method. IMO clip FX is a very convenient way to do it as well.
I think you can use an FX chain to turn those types of FX off and on. Not 100% sure on that though.
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/13 23:57:20
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Couldn't you also highlight that portion of the track, split it there and copy it, or better yet, cut that portion and put it onto it's own dedicated track at that point in the time line, and thereby have a separate track with it's own FX just for that section of the recording?
If you copied it instead of cutting, you could then mute the original section of the first track.
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/14 05:46:00
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jimusic
Couldn't you also highlight that portion of the track, split it there and copy it, or better yet, cut that portion and put it onto it's own dedicated track at that point in the time line, and thereby have a separate track with it's own FX just for that section of the recording?
If you copied it instead of cutting, you could then mute the original section of the first track.
I guess it depends on the nature of the Fx that you want to be applied to the specific clip. If you're just after generic EQ, compression etc, then splitting it out and applying clip Fx will work perfectly well with no issues with screen real estate. But if you want to run a full Pro Channel mix on it, then splitting it out to it's own track makes a lot more sense. It makes even more sense if, at some point in the song there are other sections that need a similar treatment to the one you've split out. Using clip Fx in this way (applying the same Fx on multiple clips) soon becomes wasteful of precious resources.
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/14 05:57:02
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Kalle Rantaaho
Note that many FX do not have an automatable on/off (it's FX dependable, not a SONAR-thing), so in those cases you need to automate the settings of the FX or use the bus-method. IMO clip FX is a very convenient way to do it as well.
Incorrect, it is a very Sonar thing. Studio One can automate the bypass ON/OFF with any effect you care to insert anywhere. Handy, and Sonar should do it too. What Kalle is saying below though could be correct also. What paramaters that are available for automating may vary from VST to VST and could well be VST dependent. But as far as BYPASS goes that paramater can always be automated in Studio One. What I usually find though with most VST's is as soon as you insert it and you go to automate mode, most/or all of the available parameters are in the list and available for automating.
post edited by Jeff Evans - 2013/06/15 03:44:15
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: How to edit only bits/parts of a track?
2013/06/14 06:46:50
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Jeff Evans
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Note that many FX do not have an automatable on/off (it's FX dependable, not a SONAR-thing), so in those cases you need to automate the settings of the FX or use the bus-method. IMO clip FX is a very convenient way to do it as well.
Incorrect, it is a very Sonar thing. Studio One can automate the bypass ON/OFF with any effect you care to insert anywhere. Handy and Sonar should do it too.
I stand corrected. I've have read here on the forum dozens and dozens of times that it's VST-dependable which functions are open for automation, and I've simply believed that's how it is.
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