Coreysan
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How to get that great wide stereo sound
In a cakewalk tutorial project called "Cakewalk_Audiodemo", there's an audio track called
"GTY Rhythm". Its got a good stereo mix for the electric gtr.
How is that done? Is it by sending lower freqs to the left and higher freqs to the right?
Or Chorusing?
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clintmartin
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/07 21:24:27
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Channel tools work great for guitars. Basically you have a guitar recorded in stereo, Pull up channel tools and delay one side a bit. You can also clone a track, pan them and nudge one a little...5 to 10ms.
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tunekicker
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/07 23:38:21
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Helmut Haas discovered that "A single reflection arriving within 5 to 30 ms can be up to 10 dB louder than the direct sound without being perceived as a secondary auditory event ( echo)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haas_effect So placing delay on one side as Clint says can work to widen the mix, and it actually works ok up to 30 ms.  Peace, Tunes
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gearandguitars
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/08 02:18:40
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/08 08:13:55
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I like to record the track twice..... not clone it... and then pan them at least 60% R/L. It makes for a nice wide sound...
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/08 10:34:12
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Tony Banks, the keyboard player from Genesis, got a nicely fat keyboard sound by doing the slight delay on one side trick - works really nicely.
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/08 11:42:33
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How to get that great wide stereo sound
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gearandguitars
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/08 11:46:59
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Guitarhacker
I like to record the track twice..... not clone it... and then pan them at least 60% R/L. It makes for a nice wide sound...
This is actually my preferred method now too.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/08 12:05:48
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This is actually my preferred method now too. Adding a slight delay to a copied guitar track can affect the stereo position (pan) I (too) prefer to manually double-track parts that need a wide stereo image. The subtle differences between the two takes creates a nice wide animated stereo image. Much more dynamic/alive sounding that simply cloning a track and adding delay... Stereo pitch/modulation/delay effects can also enhance the stereo image.
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/08 12:06:19
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Guitarhacker
I like to record the track twice..... not clone it... and then pan them at least 60% R/L. It makes for a nice wide sound...
This is actually my preferred method now too.
Yes, this method sounds great in stereo but can lose mono compatibility
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:How to get that great wide stereo sound
2012/10/08 12:13:56
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Yes, this method sounds great in stereo but can lose mono compatibility FWIW, The double-tracked example is actually *less* prone to mono compatibility issues than adding a copied track delayed by 5-30ms. The delayed track will likely cause phase issues when summed to mono. The true doubled part's waveform will be far more random than an exact copy... (less prone to phase issues when summed to mono)
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