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How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
Hello folks I am new to this, but I am a drummer is who is trying to learn this stuff. I have Sonor X1 Producer, I also have Dimension Pro, Beatscape and some other outside stuff like Guitar Rig 4, and Bome's Mouse & Keyboard software.
I am running a hp laptop G62 2.2 GHz dual core with 3 Gigs of DDR3 RAM, but it can support 8. It also has a 3.2 GT system Bus. It has that crappy Realtek Audio in it though, but for right now all I want to do is get the sound coming through my headphones plugged into the laptop or the laptop speakers, like when I am playing around with the drums in Session Drummer, I want to be able to hear stuff like when I hit on the drums or put beats together using Sonor, with my headphones plugged into the computer. So could you guy's tell me how to do this ?
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/02 16:22:53
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sure - but you're not going to be happy with the results. your latency using the realtek is going to be very high and it will make it pretty much impossible to play the electronic drums while monitoring Session Drummer.
have you set up sonar to use the realtek at all? when you first run sonar it asks if you want to run soundcard tests - that's necessary. so if you can hear output from audio then all you need to do is insert Session Drummer as a softsynth, load a kit and then set up the MIDI track input as the MIDI input for your drum controller.
how do you have the drum controller connected to the laptop? usb? do you have the device selected in the OPTINOS>MIDI DEVICES so that you're able to select it as an input in the MIDI track?
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/02 18:28:40
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Thanks Beagle, I more than likely will have to retrace my steps, where should I go first ? Oh and I am going to get another audio card or something, because I will not be able to tolerate that high latency very long. But I want to be able to use Sonor for my band also. So where should I start to correct this in case I did it wrong ?
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/02 19:13:50
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I'm a master at building a pc daw, but i have no idea about laptops. I'm thinking you are going to have to buy some type of outboard sound device to hook it all up to. Firewire or maybe that new usb 3.0 will be fast enough to get the latency to near zero. plus if you want to record a band using sonar and a laptop, you definitely need the ability to record multiple tracks at once and the realtek will not do. I'm sure someone on here knows laptops and external units well enough to point you in the right direction. sorry i cant be of more help.
I7 2600k 3.4g on a ASUS MB with 16 gb of ram FireFace 400 AI / Sonar 8.5 Producer / ToonTrack Superior Drummer 2 Alesis M1 Active MKII / Ibanez 7 string / Fender Super-Sonic Schecter studio 5 bass / Boss Dr. Rhythm 880 , also Yamaha DTX full rack drum pad trigger system
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/02 19:29:09
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Hey thanks 7 string, you are doing great because I am starting to learn. I have a Dell desk top dual core 2.2 3 gig RAM. But I want to be mobile so I have to learn what the pros on this board does when dealing with notebooks. I am dedicating this new laptop to nothing but music stuff, I even have Virtual DJ 7 on it because sometimes I DJ on the side. But I am going to get what ever it takes to get this thing running right. I also have to learn how to use Guitar Rig 4 because I do play enough guitar to compose some things. So I want this media notebook to be complete. So if there is anybody out there using a notebook for your Cakewalk Sonor, please feel free to chime in.
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/02 22:30:54
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it'll drive me mad, so I'll get it out of the way .. sonor is a brand of drums?!?!.. sonar is the software by cakewalk  you need to figure out what you need, how many mic inputs.. you drum , so record em ? via a mixer ? or you need 4 in's etc it's a laptop.. so you have 2 real options usb / firewire.. the other thing to think is in 2-3 years, will it still be doing what you want. I don't have firewire on this pc , so it's a bit more straight forward the choice.. and it depends on your budget http://www.cakewalk.com/P...aspx/Cakewalk-Hardware http://www.dv247.com/comp.../usb-audio-interfaces/ http://www.dv247.com/comp...re/laptop-sound-cards/ http://www.dv247.com/comp...ire-audio-interfaces-/ since your in the US , have a look at sweetwater site.. for example .. I was tempted to say guitar centre also (but maybe you could correct it to center for me.hehe) but as for GR it's like a real fx. you just add it to the audio signal pretty much even though you don't play keys... get yourself a 25 key one at least.. it's not just for keys. you can use it for a wealth of things besides.. lots on here play guitar but would admit they need one also..
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/02 22:35:18
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Fog I do have Edirol R-09HR by Roland, which I want to learn how to use with Cakewalk Sonor. I was using it just to playback band practice, but now i want to use it for doing more stuff.
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 06:43:27
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Anybody have anymore to add ?
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 09:49:26
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if you want a lot of analog inputs and low latency and portability, look at m-audio fast track ultra 8R USB, MOTU Ultralite Hybrid Mk3, RME Fireface UC
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 11:37:54
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Thanks Beagle, that is a nice unit, I just can't lay out the 500 to get one of those right now. Or maybe I can find one on ebay, or craigslist I am going to check it out.
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 11:54:27
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check my website for more recommendations.
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 11:59:12
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Hey how about this one for 100 bucks on e-bay and I will also check your site.
Edirol-USB Audio Interface (2 available)
UA-25EX...$100.00
The Edirol UA-25EX is a rugged, compact, and feature-filled, the new UA-25EX is a portable-interface powerhouse. Ideal for computer-based audio engineers who appreciate mobility, this 24bit/96kHz USB audio interface is equipped with pro-grade microphone preamps, a newly-developed analog compressor/limiter, and ground-lift functionality for studio and stage.
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 12:05:49
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that device will reduce your latency for electronic drums, yes.
you will not be able to record analog drums with it, however, unless you run all mics thru a mixer and record only the stereo output of the mixer.
that's just FYI - you can always upgrade your soundcard later to get more inputs for analog.
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 12:17:14
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Ok I am back nice site, and very glad to hear that you are Christian. I am too, and my Gospel band is why I am trying to get this stuff together. I do have a Yamaha EMX 512C mixer, and I am going to get a better sound card I do not like Realtek sound cards. And I also have a my ole trusty Peavey mixer, but it is only six channels and does not have all the features that the Yamaha has plus the Yamaha is 12 channels and it has it's own 500 watt power. I also have to learn more about using my Roland Edirol R-09HR
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 13:10:30
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good deal. the edirol will work to get you started and it will (likely) reduce your latency to an acceptable level for triggering Session Drummer with your electronic drums.
when you get some gospel stuff laid down make sure you send it to me to hear!
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/03 14:54:34
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/06 20:03:06
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What is a good MIDI To USB cable I just got my YAMAHA keyboard back, so now I want to lean how to use it with X1 Producer. But I do not have a Midi cable. I even saw one with power over at Amazon.com. But it was only for a 32 bit, and I have a 64, and pluse one dude was saying that it had high latency.
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/06 20:41:31
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/07 01:37:32
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Thanks Beagle, I like that first link up there, I am running Windows 7, 64 bit on my hp notebook. which one would you go forout of those 2 links, because I want to send away for one of them as soon as possible.
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/07 08:25:55
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I own an m-audio UNO (first link).
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Re:How to hear Session Drummer through my computer speakers
2011/03/08 16:04:52
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