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How to make a radio-distorted voice?
How to reproduce that low-quality, noise-filled distorted effect of a badly tuned radio? What I need to know is both what *type* of effect to use (for example equalizer, compression, gating etc.) *and* some good brand names. But nothing Sonar-only - I want to be able to use it in other DAW's, too. Thanks.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 14:21:10
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A sound design question eh? You have already described what you need to do. Sonar......A Parametric EQ shelved off correctly (Low and High) in the right spots or just search the sweet spots on Quad curve, some boost on the mid range and either a touch of gain or/and some distortion, TH2 would do the job with some Amp Simulation, also some tape emulation, some concrete limiter and a noise gate. I do this effect all the time but no way will I reveal my sound design tricks on a public forum
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 15:00:52
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I would combine: - EQ (hp & lp)
- ring modulator
- amp sim
Forget about brand names. Generic stuff will be fine.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 16:03:18
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1-Sonar has FX-chains in its browser called Vox - Vocal Comb and Vox - Telephone Delay. You can drag one of those into the FX bin and then play with the settings to get what you need. 2-EZ Mix also has a number of choices. (Sorry, I don't remember which are in the standard set and which are in the Vocal Toolbox add-on). These sound great. "Crappy TV" and "Cosmonaut" are especially good. From you description, I think you want an extreme midrange boost and an extreme cut of highs and lows. You can clone the track, reverse phase on one track (which will effectively result in silence), and then on one track only, boost the midrange. The result will be that you will have nothing except the boosted range. You can move the boosted frequency around to find the sound you want. For the static, you might look online for a radio static sound effect and add it on. I download a lot of sound effects. Some are free and some just cost a couple of dollars.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 20:14:35
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Voxengo Voxformer has a "telephone" setting.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 20:49:10
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The main ingredient is high/low filer cuts. As noted, there are various others things 'that can help - a hint of distortion. A gate if you want a squelched sound (police, NASA, air traffic, military radios use this). You can use phase to "lose" the signal. Short delay to create ring. Lots of fun. @
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 20:56:12
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2 bands did 21st Century Schizoid Man : same engineer on both : The box used was a Big Muff ! Ok there were more than 2 recordings, but you would only remember 2...
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Silicon Audio
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 21:16:15
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 22:47:54
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 23:05:36
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 23:13:19
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Silicon Audio The free iZotope Vinyl plugin will do it too: http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/vinyl/
Wow, that plug-in is something else... even runs with the transport stopped! I can see me putting this in a project and 2 years from now posting "Weird pops and crackles in only one project??" LOL
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Silicon Audio
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 23:20:59
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mettelus
Silicon Audio The free iZotope Vinyl plugin will do it too: http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/vinyl/
Wow, that plug-in is something else... even runs with the transport stopped! I can see me putting this in a project and 2 years from now posting "Weird pops and crackles in only one project??" LOL
CW should insert this plugin under the hood and turn the date knob a decade or two clockwise with every new release, then they could claim a better sounding audio engine with every new version.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/16 23:57:57
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I just export the wave from Sonar, import to Cubase, Protools, pretty much any other DAW, make the adjustments there to produce maximum audio fidelity, and when I import back to Sonar, its largely unintelligible. That may be a lot more of a lo-fi effect than you're looking for, but its a straightforward process with no real way to fail. ;-)
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 00:55:56
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If you're using the iZotope Vinyl plugin, be sure to use the DirectX version, because otherwise the Warp Model and Warp Depth controls will be disabled.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 02:39:22
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First of all: thanks for all the answers However: I accidentally asked the wrong question. It's a special kind of distortion I need. I am looking for a "static" voice. Voices distorted only by lots of static noise (eg. all radio military transmissions in games). So please let me know which of your answers above (if any) are correct for this new question. Thanks again.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 02:44:25
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Buy a set of walkie talkies and record your best trucker talk. Over.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 03:05:51
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df12 First of all: thanks for all the answers However: I accidentally asked the wrong question. It's a special kind of distortion I need. I am looking for a "static" voice. Voices distorted only by lots of static noise (eg. all radio military transmissions in games). So please let me know which of your answers above (if any) are correct for this new question. Thanks again.
Find one of the users here who is desperately trying to get rid of static from his/her DAW set-up and swap rigs All jokes aside, what you are wanting to do is add radio static to your vocal recording. So maybe you need to simply find a sample of radio static somewhere on the net and with the help of the band-pass filtering as suggested earlier on the vocal recording, mix the two together to get what you're after? I can't say I've ever seen a specific plugin for what you're after. You are in the realm of sound design.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 08:17:50
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iamdunker Buy a set of walkie talkies and record your best trucker talk. Over.
I'm reminded of that scene in The Young Ones where Nigel Planer is being instructed by Alexei Sayle in how to make a "kkkkkkhhhhh" sound for talking over a police radio.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 10:02:12
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Silicon Audio said: "So maybe you need to simply find a sample of radio static somewhere on the net and with the help of the band-pass filtering as suggested earlier on the vocal recording, mix the two together" I'd already tried it: created a white noise sound on a Track (some DAW allow noise creation), put a clear vocal on the 2nd Track and mixed. The voice was still clear only with a noisy background, not at all what I needed. (BTW, if this is not the appropriate forum for this kind of questions, where should I post them?)
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 11:39:27
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The "Techniques" forum is probably more appropriate. Here's what I would do though:
Shelve everything below about 800hz and everything above 8000hz. Boost between 2000 and 6000hz to the point of clipping a tube emulator plugin--not completely overdriven, just enough to make it sound "hot" on transients and sibilance. Add some white noise or static on another track and sidechain a gate using your vocal track to it so that it only keys when you're talking (in other words, you only hear the static when your voice track is producing sound). You can add some short delay and amplitude modulation and play with phase if you want it to sound like the signal is dropping in and out (mentioned above). These are all starting points, you'll have to kind of dial it in to get exactly what you want.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 13:53:26
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AT The main ingredient is high/low filer cuts.
What is a "filer cut"? I've searched the net and found nothing.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/17 14:18:04
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/18 01:53:15
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Again, EZ Mix 2 with the Vocal Toolbox add-on will do this (Cosmonaut preset), but it wouldn't be worth the purchase unless you've been thinking of buying that plug-in anyway. I only use a few of the EZ Mix2 presets, but the ones I do use, I use all the time so it was well worth the modest price. The kick drum and bass guitar presets get the most use from me, and I use hi-hat, tom, and snare presets pretty often. There are a few handy vocal presets, but I normally don't use a lot of stuff on vocals, other than EQ. I found the guitar settings pretty lame, esp compared to GuitarRig, but I'm sure some people really like them. I also have the Mastering Toolkit. I do not master my own CDs that are mass-produced and sold retail; however, I use the mastering tools to make rough version CDs or demos for my own listening. I have also used the mastering tools to make quick short-deadline tracks for TV.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/18 10:35:47
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Bad spelling and laziness catch up w/ me again. Filter, no filer, even tho it is tax time here in the US. @
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/18 13:22:50
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df12 First of all: thanks for all the answers However: I accidentally asked the wrong question. It's a special kind of distortion I need. I am looking for a "static" voice. Voices distorted only by lots of static noise (eg. all radio military transmissions in games). So please let me know which of your answers above (if any) are correct for this new question. Thanks again.
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Re: How to make a radio-distorted voice?
2014/03/25 00:37:43
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Try an amp such as overloud. You could duck the amp with the vocal.
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