gswitz
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How to mic a Leslie?
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post edited by gswitz - 2018/03/10 19:29:03
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 05:01:53
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I have a Roger Mayer Univibe
It will suffice
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 05:24:21
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A surprisingly dark query from you Geoff (hi BTW) but I think I'm gonna have to say I would rather mic the Leslie cab over destroying myself.
In fact I'd say I'd be much more interested in the various ways to mic a Leslie cabinet than I am in the various ways to destroy myself.
And believe you me... I can get quite creative and imaginative in ways to destroy myself.
Also... and I'm no Leslie talking dood... I'd imagine a/some ribbon mics would be quite advantageous in whatever Leslie cab mic'ing is to take place.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 11:43:43
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The question was originally posed by my friend who owns the Leslie when I suggested recording it. The darkness was his. I just thought it was a funny way to pose it. He makes me laugh.
We've been having a great time making awesome wild sounds with all his Moog stuff. Dude, it's crazy fun. The sound fills the room and evolves and changes in a way that's hard to describe. Nothing that has come through my monitors is like it. It's like the difference between a picture of beautiful mountains and standing on a beautiful mountain. Sure, any one picture can capture a single perspective, but when you're there... it's just better.
My friend smokes, so I don't know if want to break out my ribbons at his place. :-(
I was thinking just 2 SDCs in the room and call it a day. I agree it would be nice to include a ribbon or two, I just don't know if they'll suffer from the smoke. I could ask him to cut back on the smoke while we do it, but idk. It's a house with a wood stove too. So many particulates in the air.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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gswitz
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 19:29:28
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I edited my post title to make it less stressful.
Not sure the humor conveyed.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 19:52:23
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http://blog.shure.com/miking-the-legendary-leslie-tone-cabinet/ In case anyone wants to know! Two mics up top will get the stereo effect happening. There can be quite a wind up top as well so make sure the mics have wind shields on them. Also things can get a little noisy in there too. If the bottom baffle is rotating then up to two mics down below as well can be cool too. Or at least one down below.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 21:51:40
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I worked for a guy who had a Leslie in his studio (I think he actually had a stereo pair at one point). I only got to hear it fired up a few times but yeah, they are interesting and this post got me thinking of how I'd approach it (if I had the mics).
I think I'd do a "surround" type scheme. Five mics, two stereo pairs (one pair of condensers and one pair of dynamics like some 58's/57's).
I'd mic all four sides of the cab with the stereo pairs being (obviously) directly across from each other. The hang a ribbon mic or something really rich sounding above the cabinet by at least a few feet. Then pan things appropriately in the mix.
Some stereo room mics for some natural delay/to capture the weird way the Leslie throws would be ideal too.
Again, not a Leslie talkin' dood but that seems like a cromulent (if not a bit overly elaborate) setup.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 22:28:07
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You are way over thinking it. I have done it with a pair of near co incident mics on a stereo bar and it sounded fantastic. What can be good is if you can put the Leslie in a smallish live room e.g. a laundry etc and let the sound bounce around. A stereo pair will pick up all the imaging etc...
They can be noisy and you can pickup all sorts of mechanical stuff because it is a big mechanical thing. Driving it quite loud overcomes this a fair bit. Hence putting it in a room away from the main control room etc.. can be very good.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 22:38:46
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Jeff Evans
You are way over thinking it.
Heh. I NEVER do that. Just ask Ed! ;-) Good to see ya Jeff.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 22:52:05
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Hi Beeps. I think a surround recording could be good if you were going to reproduce it live or in playback situation with 4 speakers etc.. The sound only comes out of one horn, not both. The other horn is there purely for balance. So 4 mics in a square formation around the top to middle area could be good. If the lower baffle is rotating then that movement would also be picked up too. There is quite a lot of movement involved from both parts. Top and bottom.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/10 23:10:19
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Ya, I just figured it could provide a lot of interesting mix options. 'Cause they do sound pretty crazy in the wild (as Geoff) noted. I could just see a convenient path to level automating betwixt the condensers and dynamic when the orchestration calls for it (essentially a"get out of the way/shine NOW option) or a sweet "wah" effect betwixt the two close pairs.
Or even crazy tape speed style modulation/phasing.
I tend to get a little over excited thinking about such things though.
Cheers!
PS: I may pick your brain about some stuff soon, Mr. Evans... if you're down with it.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/25 18:15:06
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/26 15:18:21
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/26 16:38:58
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Re: Better to kill yourself or mic a Leslie?
2018/03/26 16:40:45
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☄ Helpfulby Beepster 2018/03/26 18:27:51
All you need is a rotating mic.
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