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How to not delete automation
If I select a clip in Sonar X1 and delete it also the automation envelope get deleted. In Sonar 8.5 there was an option in the toolbar that said "don't select automation with clips" or something similar (can't recall right now). Where is this feature in X1? Even if I select "clips" in the track header the automation is effected by editing.
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/03/09 05:39:43
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Try Edit > Delete and de-select automation.
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/03/09 06:30:55
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Edit and delete? Sorry, can't seem to find that...?
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/03/09 07:18:09
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From the menu bar, under "Edit"
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/03/09 08:20:09
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yeah, there are a bunch of check boxes there in that window.... read them all and select the ones you want .... be sure to deselect the ones you don't want applied. there is a default and it is usually the most common option but if you need something else you must choose the options.
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/03/09 09:13:39
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In the TV Menu deselect Options->Select Track envelopes with clips
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/03/09 14:57:59
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Awesome, thanks! Finally found it...
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/29 18:43:52
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Thanks Giannis for the question and FBB for the answer...(once again!) conga
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/30 02:55:13
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As I am reading this, I am wondering if it is possible to place any automations onto a separate track to the clip. I might have a look into this tonight, when I get home from work. I just fancy being able to keep my synth automations separate from the MIDI track...
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/30 04:01:52
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All automation should appear in the Audio track, that's assuming you're running split Audio/Midi tracks for your synths, and not simple instrument tracks, and also assuming there's no Midi Fx you're automating.
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/30 08:07:27
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Hi Jonesey, I am pretty sure that if you a creating an automation envelope that controls, say, the cut off frequency value of a filter, for instance, then that envelope will be on the MIDI track, seeing as it is MIDI data that is being sent. If a Simple Instrument track is being used, then yes, the automation envelope will be drawn onto that one track, and when the synth is frozen, the automation will be applied to the audio that is created for that track. And there is Clip Automation and Track Automation. I used to do this quite a bit, when I was last active and using Sonar 6. I am slowly getting back up to speed as the weeks pass by, but I am still somewhat short of where I used to be six years ago... I'm at work at the moment, and I can only refer to the reference guide, so I will double check on this later. cheers andy
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/30 08:40:20
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I thought that through the Synth Rack you could choose which track to "host" a synth's automation?
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/30 08:52:40
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Thanks for that Steve, I will look into it later...
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/30 16:31:27
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FWIW, I've just been playing with this. Steve, you are correct, you can select which track is to contain a synth's automation from the Synth Rack. So, if you wish, you can keep your automation envelopes separate from the MIDI note clips, if you so desire. I was hoping to be able to create a track for each of the synth parameters that I would ike to automate, but you do not appear to be able to do this, as when you select a new track from the drop down selection thing, what ever automation is contained on the previous track moves onto the newly selected track, and you cannot separate them. Not to worry, at least I know I can keep the automation envelopes separate from the MIDI clips. I just need to be sure that this gives me some kind of an advantage... it's just a hunch of mine and I will carry on with my experimentation in this area. @ Jonesey - As far as I can make out, the only automation envelopes that can be created on Audio tracks are those that you would expect to effect an audio clip, and that is Pan and Volume, and also (and I have only just found this out tonight) the various parameters that are tweakable within the ProChannel modules.
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/31 04:08:27
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Andy, in addition to those you mention, the track will also display any envelopes written to control Plugins in the Fx bin If you insert e.g. a delay, then select the edit filer > Automation, you'll see all the controls that the plug exposes for automation
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Re:How to not delete automation
2012/07/31 06:03:37
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Yeah, I noticed that Jonesey, thanks :) I've never tried that before, in Sonar, that is, tweaking the effects parameters through a song. Many years ago, I used to have an Electroharmonix Memory Man, and you could get some real strange effects from that by tweaking the delay parameter. I wondering if you could do the same with some of the delays on offer in Sonar, or GR5... I can see another experiment coming on... One day, I'm in danger of perhaps getting down to making some music lol.
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