How to really nail the true Santana sound fom guitar to amp from Willie carrero

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http://forum.cakewalk.com/search.aspx?searchid=300752&high=santana%20toneUmm....Herb.....

Randy... if that link was supposed to go somewhere... it didn't take me there.

People in the past might have asked about Carlos' tone.... I'm sure...Carlos has good tone and other pickers do too.... but it's not  something people ask about here every day.... not that I see anyway...

instead of trying to copy, why not create?

Gibson guitar.... cord.... mesa boogie cranked.   Done.

I liked Santana's sound when it was Neil Schon playing it.

Why on earth would you want Santana's sound?

Santana I can handle........


Over at the MY LP Forum everyone wants "Slash" tone........

Well I gave a listen and the OP did have a nice tone. Was it 100% Carlos? That's totaly subjective.
The OP is proud of his work, and his ability. Just not very humble about that ability. I say this is a great idea for the song forums, to have a give us your best Carlo sound. Be that in a cover or just in style and tone. I would be interested what the many good players here could come up with.

Why does PRS use the names of Gibson executives for their guitars and pickups?

I thought it was to help you remember that a PRS is a homage to the Gibson tradition.

Santanna = Gibson P90 or PAF into a hot rodded Fender Princeton Reverb with a speaker that can take the abuse. I'd be curious to learn more about the speakers used on Abraxas.


best regards,
mike

Ah!

A NewYorker whose not afraid to reveal his self-portrait.  Why the Carlos Santana cult?  Why not the Jimmy Page cult?

Worse, I wonder what the op would think of sample driven guitars in today's loopster ruled world.  IOWs, how would I ever integrate Carlos Santana in anything pop (for the here and now kids)?

Willieguitars


I'm not just saying this like everybody else on here but I'm the only one that was able to achieve that sound  everyone is asking about. Getting the true sound of Carlos Santana.
If you check out my youtube site and see all of my Santana cover videos I'm sure you will be convinced.
Here's the link and if anyone has any questions about gear please feel free to ask anytime.
I have been playing and studying his technique, tone and his music for nearly 40 years.
www.youtube.com/willieguitars

Willie, for me to understand I'll need your input.  
"I'm not just saying this like everybody else on here"  - who is "everybody" and exactly what are they saying?
You lead me to believe that EVERYBODY here is claiming to sound like Carlos.  If that is what you're saying I don't agree with you. 
 
"I'm the only one that was able to achieve that sound  everyone is asking about"- Well I thought you said they were claiming to sound like him and now you're saying they are asking how to sound like him...which is it? Well either way if you think you're all alone...I sure don't want to put a bug in your soup.
 
"If you check out my youtube site and see all of my Santana cover videos I'm sure you will be convinced - well that's just not possible...I haven't heard (nor seen) all the others that you claim to be out performing. And my other question from confusion is, how do you know you're the only one? Is that an award, contest, self-proclamation or what? I just don't understand that and you didn't explain.
 
"Here's the link and if anyone has any questions about gear please feel free to ask anytime." - thank you but not really interested in gear. My VG-8 has a fantastic Carlos pre-set that I've never needed.
 
"I have been playing and studying his technique, tone and his music for nearly 40 years" - Willie your persistance is amazing...forty years.... I'm very glad you achieved your goal. So what now? Or, who now? With there being so many guitarist with their signature sound maybe EVH would be a good one...the brown sound...
 
I also believe that mocking another guitarist is a great way to learn. One spending the time to learn another's picking technique, choice of equipment and reasons why, theory application and aspects of use are all ways of increasing
one's knowledge of the instrument and abilities.
 
I subscribe to a magazine that features popular artists equipment list and signal chain for the interested. Although my personal interest are more directly to the way the musician "feels" or the "attitude" and playing traits such as "licks" or favored modes (how or what they think or build on), I do enjoy looking at their gear choices for no particular reason. The reason I'm not that interested is that my interest is in learning how to make software sound real. Since I will more than likely never be on stage again the real challenge to me is getting the amp sims to sound real...now there is a real challenge..sht it only takes a few turns to dial in an amp. Well maybe longer for some and I understand it can be hard for them. After all the history of dialing in tone from an amp only goes back to the '50's I reckon. And really, how many doing the one man DAW need all that space and hardware?
 
Challenges of the guitarist....that's cool and once again, I'm glad you feel you reached a goal you set. You sure have a confusing way of saying it though. (at least confusing to me and that really doesn't matter)
 
 
 mistake corrected-I wrote VG-88 but it's been to long since I used it- I think it's a VG-8 

Not intended to derail the thread but...

I've been away from Gibson's for a long time- are those P-90's on the LP and SG in the photos?
I'm currently building a neck-thru Strat type and the P-90's may good choice?..thoughts?

Rumor is that Carlos used a solid state amp at Woodstock.
OMG!

We need to get one thing right here,
As far as getting that Santana sound to be honest anybody can get that sound!
I'm not talking about just the fingers at work. I'm talking about the combination
of guitar, amp and of course the Altec 417-8H speaker which produces that pearly sound.
The fingers and the heart is another story but even those who know Carlos personally have told me
I manage to pull it off as far as being the closest to getting that sound. Do I want to sound like Carlos?
"Hell no". Many guitar players struggle with trying to get that sound when they should really be looking for
their own stamp and not somebody else's.
The real reason many guitar players like that sound because the  guitar's tone range which is the true tone range is the (Midrange) tone. it's a sound or a range that cuts through a live mix with a full band. If your guitar eq setting has a bit too much treble or too much bass or that eq V shape like scooping the mids does sound great-
when you're playing solos or power chords,.. but with a band it's very difficult to cut through a mix with any settings with not enough mids. This link shows an example guitar tone with the right amount of mids:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=channel_video_title

Willieguitars

If I were playing in a Santana cover band I would think about trying to cop Santana's tone. Can't think of any other reason to want to sound like Carlos Santana.

I'M VERY HUMBLE :-(..............
NO ONE HAS EVER MISINTERPRET MY WORDS BEFORE UNTIL I JOINED THIS FORUM.
I GUESS I WONT BE ABLE TO BENEFIT ANY MUSICAL INSIGHT FROM OTHER FELLOW GUITARISTS HERE.
SINCE THERE IS SOME OF THAT NEGATIVITY THING GOING ON FROM OTHERS WHICH IS PRETTY SILLY RIGHT?
I'M CONFUSED. IS THIS 'THE VIEW' OR 'GUITAR PEOPLES COURT?'.