How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3)

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How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3)

Hi,
 
I'm new to music software. 
I bought a Belkin Tunestudio and got Cakewalk Music Creator LE (3) with it.
I've managed to work out how to get my Midi keyboard recording but can't find how to get the mic recording.
 
This is what I've got / am doing:
 
Windows XP
Midi Keyboard
Belkin Tunestudio
Mic.
 
I've got the mic running through the Tunestudio (as is the Midi keyboard).
I've got the Tunestudio plugged into the computer.
All volumes turned up.
When recording the keyboard, I see the graph thing being created as I play, against the Midi 1 track(chanel?).
I assume I click on Audio 1 to record the vocal, but get nothing. I can hear the vocal in my headphones, but can't work out how to record it.
 
Can anyone help, please?
 
 
Russ
 
 
post edited by Russ62 - 2011/10/05 07:17:30
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    Guitarhacker
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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/05 08:40:05 (permalink)
    When you say midi keyboard.... do you mean the audio output from it? I didn't see a midi input on the TS. 
    It looked totally audio. 

    What kind of mic are you using with the TS? Is it a condensor... do you have the phantom power turned on? Does the mic work in other mixers? 

    It also could very well be a simple routing issue where the inputs and out puts in MC are not set properly.  I think this is the problem since you said you can hear it in the headphone... that tells me it's there but not getting to the track. Open the track inspector and set its input to the TS channel that you have the mic plugged into.  Use the keyboard track for a reference since it is working..... but select the mic instead. 

    LE versions are Limited Editions, meaning that not everything works in them, but ALL the LE versions allow the basics to function so you should be able to get sound recorded. 

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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/05 10:33:48 (permalink)
    I didn't see any MIDI ports either. MC can only record 2 channels at a time, so whatever input you used to record the keyboard's audio output, unplug the keyboard and plug in the mic there and select that input in the track.
    And use phantom power if it's a condenser mic.

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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/05 11:46:23 (permalink)
    It looks like there are 2 inputs so both should show up in your available audio input options.


    You obviously have one of them set right. Check the input for channel 2...or whatever the mic input is.


    MC will record a max of 2 inputs at one time, so you can have the keyboard audio on 1 and the mic on 2. 

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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/05 20:36:51 (permalink)
    Keep in mind with the advice above that input 1 might be the left input and input 2 the right input of the device.
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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/09 10:03:46 (permalink)
    Hi Guitarhacker,
     
    Thanks for coming back to me.
     
    Right - as far as I can see, I've tried what you suggested.
    I think, THINK, maybe my MC LE won't allow me to record a vocal?
    Maybe because it was a 'freebie' with the tunestudio? So just a .
    basic 'minow' to catch a sprat? Meaning I need to buy a proper Cakewalk, an all singing
    and recording version - a fully working version?
     
    In answer to your thoughts.............
     
    By midi keyboard - I mean, I've got a 20 year old Korg Concert C30 with Midi
    I've connected my Korg keyboard to the computer.
    OK - I'm thinking aloud here - I've just gone and looked at how I've hooked
    everything up.
    The tunestudio is connected to the Computer via a USB Audio cable.
    BUT - The Mic is going into the Tunestudio whereas the keyboard is
    not. The keyboard is connected directly to the computer. The Keybopard is recording but the mic ISN'T.
     
    When I put my ipod into the Tunestudio, the mic and the keyboard record 
    when I sing and play simultaneously. I'm NOT using the computer at all in this case.
    So I know the mic works. The mic is a Samson S2(?).
    I've stuck a jack into the keyboard's headphone socket, so I know the keyboard isn't being recorded via the mic, as the keyboard
    sound is coming through my headphone which I've got plugged into the TS.
    So all the sound is going through the TS to the iPod - and recording properly.
     
    re your suggestion 'open the track inspector and set it's input to the TS channel'......,
    I can only find 'channel ' in one place - no 'track inspector', and 'channel' is shaded out, so I can't use it.
     
    I can see how I could be recording the keyboard onto the computer (MC LE) as it is connected directly i.e.
    not via the TS at all. BUT, I can't work out how I'm recording on the iPod even though the ipod is connected to the computer
    as the TS is connected to the computer, and why I can't record a vocal to the computer (MC LE) when the mic
    is connected to the TS and it records when the computer is off, on to the iPod along with the midi keyboard.
     
    I've taken this long to come back to you Guitarhacker, because I wanted to make sure I'd tried everything I'm capable
    of trying myself, first.
     
    any ideas PLEASE????
     
    Cheers - and thanks for your time.
     
    Thanks also to the other contributors.
     
    Russ
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/09 10:52:21 (permalink)
    Yes, it does record audio. Did the Wave Profiler ever run while the Tonestudio was connected and on? It normally runs the first time you open MC and sets things up for you, but the audio device you use has to be connected in order for the program to 'see' it.
    In MC, go to Options>Audio at the top. Click the Wave Profiler button. After it finishes, make sure that the Tonestudio is selected as both Recording and Playback Timing Masters.
    Under the Drivers tab in Options>Audio, make sure that the Tonestidios drivers are selected and deselect everything else.
    So, you have the MIDI keyboard connected to the computer with a MIDI-to-USB converter and you're hearing it play through the Tonestudio's headphone output?

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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/09 12:01:12 (permalink)
    yeah... like Greg said, one of the things you can do in all the LE versions is record audio and midi.... that part works properly.

    Some of the advanced features are not available in the LE versions but you can record and export the music. 


    If it's not recording the mic, you have routing set up wrong or the Wave profiler hasn't run to pick up the fact that it has those inputs available. 



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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/09 16:33:01 (permalink)
    Guitarhacker and 57Gregy,
     
    OK - I think I'm getting somewhere - cheers guys.
     
    I've got the midi keyboard with connections from IT to the computer and another set of connections from the key board to the tunestudio. I've got the mic connected to the Tunestudio. I've got the Tunestudio connected to the computer with an audio/USB cable.
    I can get playback of the recorded keyboard either through keyboard speakers themselves, or, if i put the headphones on, I can also get keyboard playback through either the Tune studio headphones or the keyboard headphones. So either I've got a faulty Audio USB lead, or more likely, I'm routing/connecting something wrongly or I'm missing a bit of mic connecting kit. I can hear my vocal through the mic when using the headphones plugged into the Tunestudio. I'm just not getting the vocal to the MC LE.
     
    I'm going to go and do what you've suggested above guys and see what gives.
     
    A big thanks for your help.
     
    Russ
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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/09 18:50:04 (permalink)
    OK... so I'm still a bit confused.... and we need to understand completely. correct anything that is wrong in my comments: 


    The Korg is connected directly to the computer with a USB AUDIO cable.... correct? Not a midi cable and you're not using a soft synth to get the music. 

    PLUS... you   also have the KORG connected to the tune studio with an audio cable. So the KORG is connected to 2 devices.   

    THEN.....

    The mic is connected to the tunestudio and the TS is connected to the computer with an audio cable. 

    Correct so far? 

    With this set up you can hear the KORG but not the mic....correct?


    OK... my understanding of what might be happening.
     
    Since the korg is audible, it is likely coming in through the USB connection and not the TS connection.

    When you look at the audio options.... what are you seeing there? What input options do you have? You should be seeing both the USB audio device and the Tunestudio as options. 

    You should select the TS as the option and use the USB connection for the TS. That is how the TS connects to the computer. 

    MC only allows 2 inputs at a time. I would try using JUST the TS and running it in as audio.... both the keyboard and the mic should be connected to the TS input channels.  Reboot the computer, open MC, and run the wave profiler. In the audio options for inputs, the TS should show up. select it and give it a try. DO NOT connect the korg with the USB audio cable directly to the computer for this. 

    See what happens and let us know.

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    Re:How to record using a mic with Belkin Tuestudio, Windows XP and Music Creator LE (3) 2011/10/09 21:29:32 (permalink)
    Let's start from scratch.
    Is the Tunestudio listed under Options>Audio, anywhere? Look for it as Playback and Recording Timing Masters and if it shows up in the Drivers page.
    If it's listed, make sure it is selected (highlighted) and that nothing else is selected.
    If it's not there, you may have to close MC and re-open it with the TS attached and on so the computer and MC can recognize it.
     

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