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2018/08/03 02:36:38 (permalink)

How to rid software from old computer

How should I get rid of the plugins and samples on my old computer as it won’t be used for music anymore?
Should I desactivate and uninstall each plugin or sample library according to some specific procedure related to each individual developer? Or can I simply reset the entire computer without worrying about losing activations and the like?
The horror!

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/03 03:33:30 (permalink)
I would look at each and then decide. I don't think I have any old authorization schemes that need to be deactivated from the computer itself. Most will allow me to deactivate a computer from the website. But there is still those (talking to you Waves) that use that type.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/03 11:44:01 (permalink)
Thanks Grem!
Wonder if there’s a forum thread somewhere about this.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/03 13:11:24 (permalink)
You should look at them as Grem suggested.  Especially iLok stuff, make sure you deactivate first.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/03 13:33:51 (permalink)
Once you've squared away any authorization/activations issues, you can reinstall Windows... or a backup that's just a clean install of Windows.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/03 18:42:16 (permalink)
If you use the soft iLok for anything, definitely deactivate those products!  Have heard that if you brick or wipe the computer, you will have to go to each developer to recover any activation for that device.
 
You will probably burn an activation for any IKM products installed, but since you get like 10 activations for each product,that shouldn't be an issue.
 
I think that activations from NI, Celemony/Melodyne, or XLN can be managed from your online account.
 
I am new to Waves, so I am not sure if you need to do anything from Waves Central first.  Same with the Steinberg e-licenser.  Not sure.  I would just go down your list of installed products that don't have a hardware activation dongle and verify that each activation can be removed from the device just by using your online account.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/03 19:31:46 (permalink)
Cheers guys!

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/05 15:27:40 (permalink)
You are on a Mc aren't you Fleersy? I don't know if that makes a difference. Are you on a laptop? I would rather trim the trees than burn down the whole forest. Get your laptop out and watch a few episodes of Martha and Snoops Pot Luck Dinner Party while you work.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/05 15:43:56 (permalink)
Format C:\
 
Or you could go with the redneck method. Pull the HD and stand it up on top of the back fence, then load up the old .22 and let the fun begin.

But more seriously, HD's crash all the time. No matter the authorization scheme used, every manufacturer will have some sort of method for dealing with getting your software authorized after the original HD is no longer available. You can go through all the software and see if there is a method to deauthorize that particular computer, but ultimately you'll want to wipe/restore the drive to the original factory install. Or do the back fence .22 thing. ;-)

 
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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/05 20:10:55 (permalink)
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You should look at them as Grem suggested.  Especially iLok stuff, make sure you deactivate first.


When my old computer pooped out I just downloaded all the ilok software, installed it, then installed my plugins, popped in the dongle and everything worked fine.  I never deactivated anything.  I thought that was the purpose of ilok: use your plugins on any computer as long as the dongle is plugged in.  Have I got it wrong?  Yikes!

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/05 23:27:48 (permalink)
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You are on a Mc aren't you Fleersy? I don't know if that makes a difference. Are you on a laptop? I would rather trim the trees than burn down the whole forest. Get your laptop out and watch a few episodes of Martha and Snoops Pot Luck Dinner Party while you work.

Yep, it’s a lappie, going to sonny boy.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/05 23:29:51 (permalink)
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Format C:\
 
Or you could go with the redneck method. Pull the HD and stand it up on top of the back fence, then load up the old .22 and let the fun begin.

But more seriously, HD's crash all the time. No matter the authorization scheme used, every manufacturer will have some sort of method for dealing with getting your software authorized after the original HD is no longer available. You can go through all the software and see if there is a method to deauthorize that particular computer, but ultimately you'll want to wipe/restore the drive to the original factory install. Or do the back fence .22 thing. ;-)

True. First deactivated all iLok machine authorizations. Then deactivated or deauthorized some separates where possible. XLN required uninstall with their Online Installer, then remove the computer on their website (under My Computers in account). Arturia wants you to deactivate with their ASC-app. Overloud allows you to deactivate computers on their website. Kilohearts, PSP Audio and Output Movement uninstalled through a developer specific uninstaller app. PositiveGrid required to use the uninstaller in each download. Bitwig asks you to remove hosts from website.
Tomorrow’s the big wipe/restore.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/06 00:45:54 (permalink)
It would be a good thing if there were standards involved! 

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/06 01:39:22 (permalink)
Indeed. Got to grips with a lesser known iLok menu item, called “Take Ownership”. When a library was software activated outside of iLok but you wish to use it within the iLok habitat, do so by “taking ownership”. Yowza.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/06 14:25:26 (permalink)
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It would be a good thing if there were standards involved! 




This would make too much sense!!
 
But wouldn't it be wonderful!!

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/06 23:28:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2018/08/06 23:35:17
Here’s an additional deactivation list:

iLok: deactivate computer licenses
Plugin Alliance: deactivate computer at PA-website
Arturia: use ASC-app “all deactivated on this computer”
NI: no deactivation needed
IKM: no de-authorization. You get 10 authorizations and if you run out, IK Support will assist.
PreSonus: no de-authorization. You have 5 activations. When you run out, request a reset from Support.
Waves: transfer plugins via Waves Central to License Cloud
Melodyne: deactivated from rMBP via website
XLN Audio: unchecked all in Online Installer and removed computer on website
Overloud: deactivated via website
Output Movement: via Movement Uninstall app
PSP Audio: no deauthorization but you can use the PSP MultiInstallerPack (uninstaller)
Reason: de-authorized all via website
PositiveGrid: uninstallers in downloads
Bitwig: remove host on website
Kilohearts installer app: uninstall all
Korg Legacy: no info
Pianoteq via website
Toontrack: deauthorize via app
iZotope: via Preferences in each app
Zynaptiq (iLok) plus uninstall via app
GForce M-Tron Pro double click in installer
FabFilter deauthorize in app under Help
Spectrasonics: none (“one user/many computers”)
xFer Cthulhu: not even a serial
Plug&Mix, NomadFactory, Klanghelm, AudioDamage, d16, SugarBytes, Novation, SonicCharge, Valhalla, etc.: nothing special
OvertoneDSP: hang onto keyfile
  • Garritan GPO5 & GIO use Aria uninstaller 
  • sonible frei:raum asked for extra activation (since no uninstaller yet)


Edith: well done boy. Sit.
Edith myself: added Garritan and sonible.
SynthMaster necessitates no deactivation, simply download keyfile on new computer.
post edited by Fleer - 2018/08/09 18:04:16

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/06 23:43:57 (permalink)
@Fleer, that's a good start on a FAQ right there!

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/07 00:06:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2018/08/07 01:04:34
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PreSonus: no de-authorization. You have 5 activations. When you run out, request a reset from Support.




That's incorrect as far as I know. My PreSonus - My Products - Choose Product (View More Details) - Manage Activation's (Select appropriate activation and select 'Remove') should never need to request a reset from support.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/07 00:11:52 (permalink)
But it wont really matter as you can do the above after the fact without issue.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/07 01:05:34 (permalink)
BIAB is another that can be deactivated from within the app.  This prevents a support call/email

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/07 01:17:26 (permalink)
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PreSonus: no de-authorization. You have 5 activations. When you run out, request a reset from Support.



That's incorrect as far as I know. My PreSonus - My Products - Choose Product (View More Details) - Manage Activation's (Select appropriate activation and select 'Remove') should never need to request a reset from support.

Except for my Notion 5 and Progression 3 as they are considered to be “older”, hence the five activations rule. Studio One should be fine.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/07 03:14:02 (permalink)
hmmm, well there you go, I thought it would have been the same as with Studio One where you get 5 activation's (can install on 5 machines) and then if you removed 1 activation it would again leave you with a spare activation to use again. Live and learn.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/07 20:27:00 (permalink)
Better than let die ;)

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/07 21:47:12 (permalink)
When you got a job to do ...

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/08 00:42:58 (permalink)
LOL! You got to give the other fella more cowbell

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/08 13:38:40 (permalink)
That's a hellava list there Fleer!! Thanks!!

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/09 01:56:50 (permalink)
Ya welcome G !

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/09 15:53:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2018/08/09 16:42:09
Fleer, that is a valuable document! Thank you for taking the time and sharing it with the great unwashed. I saved a copy and backed it up in other locations. I'm considering granting your request to not call you a Euro Goober anymore.

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/09 16:39:51 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Fleer 2018/08/09 16:44:08
...on further review... REQUEST DENIED!

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Re: How to rid software from old computer 2018/08/09 16:44:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2018/08/10 01:04:51
Hey, I'm still preparing my request papers. Give a guy a break, goonie !

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