FastBikerBoy
Perception I guess then. I've always assumed "live input" to refer to anything coming in from OTB, as opposed to stuff ITB.
 
For example, I wouldn't expect to record notes clicked in the PRV note pane but I would expect notes played on one of my controllers to be recorded.

yeah fair enough, but to clarify - live bounce only records external (otb) input during bounce, not any itb tweaks?

34 posts and the OP has stil not told us what they are trying to do here. It might be as simple as needing to copy or clone a track, we are all assuming this is a case for real time adjustments. 
 
But it has at least started an interesting discusion about a feature that might be found very useful to many. 
 
What is needed is a record button on the Buses.
Think about this for a second and a light bulbs might come on for you too! 
If  a buss could be recorded this would result in an associated audio track beside it.
More light bulbs about sub mixes and special purpose tracks light up. 
Now lets record the Master buss which would be your final mix of the song. Big light bulb comes on for Mastering with in Sonar etc... 
 
Only glitch in this thinking is there would be a issue with having to mute all the original tracks to prevent doubling. 
 
Only other option I can see is that a Buss or Audio Interface output is available as a track input. Not sure if ASIO drivers would cooperate. 

Many of the post addressing the live mix are simply done using what is called "real time" bounce in SONAR, as previously stated.  There is the desire to capture in real time a live performance of a soft synth to audio when, for instance, the synth has a random option which cannot be predetermined.  (I, myself, do not use such a feature simply because it cannot be reproduced at will.)  As Craig described, this is not an essential feature as most musicians and producers would not use nor depend on this feature.
 
Now, as for the loopback strategy, as mentioned, can be easily done with a hardware interface if it provides this function.  I do use this with my Saffire for a quick "not so much of a mix" for later reference or transfer to mobile storage, e.g. CD, flash drive, etc.  Now there is the simple solution for the Bakers to allow this within SONAR without the fear of the menacing feedback.  When a signal is sent from SONAR back to the soundcard/interface and then sent back out to SONAR (loopback), the track for the incoming (loopback) input can have its output disabled when recording.  It's just a matter of identifying that incoming signal as a loopback signal in SONAR so it can do this automatically.  For instance, in the desired "loopback" track SONAR would provide an input option labeled "LOOPBACK" with the corresponding output(s) from the interface.  This could be displayed and checked in the Audio Preference so that SONAR will know/recognize the hardware outputs as the designated loopback signal.  So, when a track is configured accordingly, the output would be disabled as long as the input (loopback signal) was enable and vice versa (think grouping in this instance).  Presto!  Real time record/capture of the performance without feedback.  So, in essence the loopback track would be a special/specific track for this purpose (unlike a standard/ordinary audio track).  Sounds like another FR for the same old FR submitted time and time again.  Not hard to fathom nor implement.
 
Kind regards,
 
Living Room Rocker

johnnyV
34 posts and the OP has stil not told us what they are trying to do here. It might be as simple as needing to copy or clone a track, we are all assuming this is a case for real time adjustments. 
 
But it has at least started an interesting discusion about a feature that might be found very useful to many. 
 
What is needed is a record button on the Buses.

This would save the time of a bounce. For multiband processing, I often send a signal to multiple buses. To clean up the tracks during the mix, I'll bounce the output for the buses to a single track for easier manipulation. If the bus could record, I could record the results during one of the passes rather than do a bounce.

Back in the day when we had three people working a mix, rehearsing, then going to tape, only to realize we'd missed a pan or mute (like Craig mentions)...automation would have changed our lives.
 
Worth mentioning is that on a master for a record, we wouldn't back up and reuse (record over) the 1/4" or 1/2" tape, so a dozen or so messed up mixes meant some actual dollars, especially since we were cutting stuff all day every day.
 
One of the many reasons I don't miss tape.
 
 

Sorry that doesn't explain very much Carchela. 

carchela
Hi there!!!
 
I want to send a track to another track on sonar X3. Not to a auxiliar track.
I'll make myself clear. I saw a Pro Tools user sendind a track to another track and recording this on this second track the content processed at the first track.
Is it possible on sonar X3?
 
Thanks
 
Chris

This can be done with your audio interface if it has loopback.  It copies one of the outputs to a software input.  My RME UFX has this feature and I bet other interfaces can do it too.

johnnyV
Or another guess is some people like to capture the audio from say u-Tube while it is playing into Sonar. 
I sort of think this has nothing to do what we are rambling on about which is the ability to record the output of a track to a buss directly within Sonar. 

There are utilities for this, but I don't think this is what he means...although I'm still not sure what the issue is. or why recording fader automation moves is any less spontaneous than recording the audio that results from moving faders.

Hi guys,
 
johnnyV, "pardon my french"!!! Thanks for correcting me and my poor english!!! It helps me a lot to improve myself!!!
What I'm trying to do is simply addressing the output of a track for the input of another track and be able to record this new track. The reason here is not the what matters (I have a reason for need it - set my record offset), I just wanna know is if is it possible to do this or not? In ProTools and Logic this is a simple process.
 

I think the Daw he is used to does not have PDC and he is concerned about setting his timing. For the most part I find this unnecessary in Sonar although I have ran the loopback test to see if the reported round trip latency was correct.

Right.

Kylotan
I don't think Sonar lets you treat a track output as a real-time input for another track, no. Track outputs and sends can be real-time inputs for buses, but they don't record, meaning that's fine for listening but not for recording. (If that's not good enough, REAPER is a cheap DAW and will let you route one track to another track, and switch the recording input on the receiving track to 'Monitor Input', so you can record it that way if you choose.)
 
However: if you just want a fixed audio copy of what your synth sounds like, you can use the Freeze or Bounce options in Sonar. That should work for your EZDrummer problem.
 
If, however, by "set my record offset" you mean "measure how long it takes to send output from Sonar and receive it again", then what you need to do depends on exactly what you want to time. If you're trying to work out your sound card's latency (eg. to do manual compensation) then routing within Sonar is a waste of time - it cuts out the sound card completely. To measure that, you'll need to use the loopback cable method. And if you're trying to time the 'internal' routing speed, then that is almost always zero because Sonar automatically compensates for synth and FX delays. But if you're worried that a synth is misbehaving, you can use the freeze method I mentioned above - ensure your MIDI note or initial audio sound is right on the grid, freeze or bounce the track, then check that the output audio is also still on the grid - if it's not, you've found some delay.
 
 

Thanks!!!!
It really opened my mind to what I needed!!!
However I still think if I coud address the output of a track for the input of another track and be able to record this new track would be usefull.
 
Thank you all