How to slightly slow down audio tracks

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2016/05/01 00:56:28 (permalink)

How to slightly slow down audio tracks

I just dumped some old cassette recordings into sonar platinum.  because tape deck descrepancies they are bit fast
and a little sharp in pitch from where they should .  is there a way to incrementally make both the tempo and the Pitch
I am hoping there is something like a turntable speed control.  LOL
 

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    slartabartfast
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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/01 02:04:29 (permalink)
    There is probably a way to kludge it using Sonar, google varispeed site:forum.cakewalk.com, but I would use Audacity since I have it installed (it is free) and it has a function that does that easily, then import it into Sonar. 
    http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/change_speed.html
     
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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/01 02:43:44 (permalink)
    I have found that one plugin included in Sony Vegas is one of the best.  And if Sony Vegas is loaded - the time stretch - pitch option shows up as a VST2.
     
     
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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/01 11:59:36 (permalink)
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    There is probably a way to kludge it using Sonar, google varispeed site:forum.cakewalk.com, but I would use Audacity since I have it installed (it is free) and it has a function that does that easily, then import it into Sonar. 
    http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/change_speed.html

     
    SONAR does exactly what the OP wants, and it's not a kludge...just a little-known way to apply an existing feature, and you don't have to do any exporting or importing. The basic idea is in the tip for Week 20 in Friday's Tip of the Week. A Sound on Sound column on "varispeed" techniques goes into this in more depth. I use this technique all the time, especially when mastering and I want to emulate what I used to do with variable-speed two-track recorders.
     

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/01 16:19:10 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot I will try that.  

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/03 23:57:18 (permalink)
    Why am I getting a "this editing operation is not allowed" message.   Is there a length limit to loop construction
    I have a long clip that I am trying to do it with

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/04 00:17:11 (permalink)
    HighAndDry
    Why am I getting a "this editing operation is not allowed" message.   Is there a length limit to loop construction
    I have a long clip that I am trying to do it with



    Yes, there is a limit. I don't recall offhand what it is; I've used this successfully on 8 minute songs at 120 BPM, however you will receive a warning the clip will be made memory-resident. But remember, you do not want to enable looping, only stretching. Although this technique uses the loop construction window it has nothing to do with creating a loop.

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/04 00:52:00 (permalink)
    Ok   It works if the song is shorter.  But I am getting the end cut off.   I am detuning the clip 35 cents.  I tried extending it in track view by dragging the end with the smart tool but I got the same result.  So I don't know how to extend it properly

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/04 01:37:09 (permalink)
    Sorry, should have been more specific. I usually use this to speed up, so there's some extra at the end that needs to be deleted. However when you slow down, the audio extends past the existing clip's boundary, so you need to slip-edit some extra length on the clip end prior to slowing down. 

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/04 14:43:34 (permalink)
    so far my slip editing attempts have not been successful.  I have tried adding length to the clip in the track view (before I bring it into loop construction) and it still ends up cutting the end off after slowing down and bouncing.  the actual pitch and speed adjustment works great!  But so far I am losing the end of the clip.  I don't know what I am doing wrong.

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/04 15:42:15 (permalink)
    Hi. Slip edit the clip, (right click) and "bounce to clip(s)". This way the extended part of the clip gets included.
    All the best.

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/04 17:16:59 (permalink)
    Yes, that's it. I guess I need someone whose native language is not English to be my interpreter 

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/05 00:48:35 (permalink)
    will try  thank you

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/05 01:21:48 (permalink)
    All right!! That last bounce to clips after the slip edit was the ticket.  works great.  thanks a lot

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    Re: How to slightly slow down audio tracks 2016/05/05 04:50:43 (permalink)
    Anderton
    Yes, that's it. I guess I need someone whose native language is not English to be my interpreter 




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