How to use HF Exciter in the mastering process to add "shine"?

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2012/04/23 03:54:24 (permalink)

How to use HF Exciter in the mastering process to add "shine"?

I know that in the end, you just need to trust your ears and adjust settings according to each specific track. I know that this is with all effects, as it is with a harmonic exciter.

With that said, I was wondering if there's anyone out that that uses the HF Exciter in the mastering process to added "shine" to their final mix, and is willing to share some general guidelines for how to use the exciter for that purpose.

I'm hoping to get some of that crystally shiny sound that you find in mainstream commercial tracks with the exciter. Is Cakewalk's HF Exciter even capable of producing that? Are there some general tips to achieve that with this exciter?


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    Re:How to use HF Exciter in the mastering process to add "shine"? 2012/04/23 12:20:32 (permalink)
    A lot of the commercial sound you're hearing is probably either use of an Aphex Aural Exciter or a BBE Sonic Maximizer. The trick with HF Excitement is that it can keep sounding better and better as you push the highs louder in volume, only to realize 30 minutes later that your ears are seriously fatigued and you need to take a break. The BBE unit was famous for this problem, which is ironic since the phase alignment process at its core has nothing to do with the Lo Contour and Process knobs that bump up 50 Hz and 10 kHz respectively, and were the source of a lot of "overdoing it." I've found the best results when keeping the BBE knobs below 1 (they go up to 10!) Aural Exciters can be great tools, but please exercise restraint. :-) Peace, Tunes
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    Re:How to use HF Exciter in the mastering process to add "shine"? 2012/04/23 13:06:50 (permalink)
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    A lot of the commercial sound you're hearing is probably either use of an Aphex Aural Exciter or a BBE Sonic Maximizer. The trick with HF Excitement is that it can keep sounding better and better as you push the highs louder in volume, only to realize 30 minutes later that your ears are seriously fatigued and you need to take a break. The BBE unit was famous for this problem, which is ironic since the phase alignment process at its core has nothing to do with the Lo Contour and Process knobs that bump up 50 Hz and 10 kHz respectively, and were the source of a lot of "overdoing it." I've found the best results when keeping the BBE knobs below 1 (they go up to 10!) Aural Exciters can be great tools, but please exercise restraint. :-) Peace, Tunes

    Ah, thank you for the information. Yes I plan to keep the knobs of any exciter down to a minimum, so that I can add just a hint of excitment to my mix. I know that overdoing it can lead to unwanted to results


    But how can I use SONAR's HF Exciter specifically to achieve a good shine on the mastering process? The parameters for HF Exciter are: frequency, drive, spread, and mix. Is there a certain frequency that's ideal when mastering a track? How about drive? Is it good to spread the excitement, or leave it close together? Is it usually better to have high drive and low mix, or low drive and how mix?

    Again, I know that every mix is unique and different, and it's always best to trust your ears and do what sounds best, but I wanted to see if there was a general outline for using exciters because I've never used them before.

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    Re:How to use HF Exciter in the mastering process to add "shine"? 2012/04/23 20:30:22 (permalink)
    Again, I know that every mix is unique and different, and it's always best to trust your ears and do what sounds best,

    That really is the best way to do it. And never trust your judgement on a single session.
     
    Go back to the track sometime later (hopefully before release) and make sure you've not overdone it. A catch with exciters is that the longer you've been listening to them the more the brain kind of gets used to hearing the effect and it sort of disappears, so to maintain the initial effect you need to add more and more excitement........
    but I wanted to see if there was a general outline for using exciters because I've never used them before.

    As tunekicker says - "use with restraint". Remember that things like iTunes contain their own exciters, which are generally on by default, which will be added their own boost and fizz to any exciting you do and while too much exciting will grab a listener's attention it quickly becomes very fatiguing and uncomfortable to listen to.
     
    So if you write the kind of music that you want people to sit and listen to or as comfortable background ambience you might not want the same settings as someone recording a track aimed at the charts or clubs where it really does need to stand out and instantly grab ears.
     
    It's also worth remembering that a huge amount of very good music was very well recorded and mastered before anyone thought of exciters....

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