How to use expression pedal with Guitar Rig 5 while playing a soft synth

I am trying to get my expression pedal to control the Wah Wah in one of the Guitar Rig 5 effects, while I play a MIDI instrument through Guitar Rig 5.
 
I've created two tracks.
 
Track 1 = Kontakt 5 virtual instrument (a guitar sounds; doesn't matter which one).  This track's audio FX box contains an instance of Guitar Rig 5.  I'm using the "Classic 70's Wah" preset, which has a Wah Wah component.

Track 2 = MIDI automation, with output being Guitar Rig 5.  I then used the "Learn" functionality in Guitar Rig to get the Wah Wah component "listening" to the expression pedal.

So far so good, except that it seems that I can only play the soft synth or the automation, but not both at the same time:
 
When I select Track 1, the keys control the soft synth (good) but the expression pedal controls the volume rather than the Guitar Rig 5 Wah Wah component (bad).

When I select Track 2, the expression pedal controls the Wah Wah component (good), but the keys don't do anything (bad).


So, it doesn't seem that Track 1 and Track 2 can both "listen" the keys and pedal at the same time.  This means I can't play the soft synth and control the Wah Wah at the same time.

Any idea what I am doing wrong?

Thanks!

Tripecac
Was it wrong to create a separate MIDI track for the pedal to control Guitar Rig's Wah Wah slider?
 

That's how I usually do with other plugins that require MIDI in to control a parameter.  I was trying to do the same thing with TH3 but that does not work because of a known issue with TH3.

In your case, make sure you have enabled "MIDI in" on the Guitar Rig 5 VST configuration (Although, I suspect you have done this, otherwise it would not be visible on the MIDI drop down for the MIDI destinations on your second MIDI track). 

One other thing to check is to make sure that Guitar Rig is set to the same MIDI channel that your second MIDI track is transmitting on.  Ideally Choose Omni to get it to listen on all channels.

The instructions to change the listening channel (I think - I can't check, I do not own GR5) is outlined in the Application Reference manual on page 65.

I think I understand my problem, but I don't have a solution.
 
The problem: The output of a MIDI track can go to either Kontakt (the soft synth) or Guitar Rig (the effect), but not both.  This means only one of those plugins (Kontakt or Guitar Rig) can hear me play the notes and/or pedal.
 
Therefore, I need to find a way to send MIDI to both plugins simultaneously.  How is that possible?

Ah, I found a way to disable the volume pedal in Kontakt:
 
1) click on the spanner/wrench icon to the left of the patch name in Kontakt
2) click Instrument Options
3) click the Controller tab
4) untick Accept standard controllers for Volume and Pan
5) click Close
 
The neat thing is this only affects that one Kontakt instrument, not the others.  So, the organ, for example, still changes its volume according to the pedal.
 
Another slight annoyance: each time we are done playing the synth and effect combination, we need to remember to turn off MIDI echo On for the effect track.
 

Is there an easier way to do this?  Ideally, I would have the notes and the pedal events on the same MIDI/synth track, so there is no duplication of events, and no need to arm multiple tracks.
 
Would the notes and pedal events need to be on different MIDI channels, since they are going to be "heard" by multiple plugins (a soft synth and an effects plugin)?

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Now, if sonar had such a "MIDI send" , then with that would could use a MIDI track's MIDI send to send a duplicate MIDI signal to the Guitar rig (or any other plugin that has a MIDI in configured).  MIDI sends have been feature requested, but I am not sure if it's being considered.

 
When patch points were introduced for audio tracks there was a lot of discussion about how great it would be to have this functionality available for midi as well  Someone from Cakewalk commented that we should 'watch this space',  so hopefully it is on the to do  list somewhere. Fingers crossed,  as it would indeed be a great feature. 

Or you could use the filter in event view. 

The echoing isn't really the issue at this point.  It's what happens after the data is recorded.
 
Right now since both tracks are armed and listening to the same set of MIDI channels (in this case, all of them), both the notes and the pedal events are being saved on both tracks.  This is a pain to clean up.
 
What I'd like instead is for the notes to end up saved to the instrument track, and the pedal events saved to the effect track.
 
If I record the notes and pedal events to the instrument track, with the effect track's MIDI echo set to On, then I can record everything to one track (the instrument track).  However, after recording, there is another step I need to do, and that is to move the pedal events from the instrument track to the effect track.
 
Is there a quick method for doing that?  (Move events belonging to a particular CC from Track A to Track B?)