How will the new "take lanes" differ from "layers"?

How will the new "take lanes" differ from "layers"?



best regards,
mike

Some of us took a survey about "live tracking" with SONAR.


The so called "automation lanes" are described as such in the new X2 promo info.

I am referring to the "New! take lanes" which I assume is the result of some effort to address live tracking tasks in a fast paced environment.

I had filled out the form with some suggestions that indicated that I hoped it might be a little easier to manage takes, or at least info about takes.

Don't get me wrong, I love layers... they are a favorite feature... but I was hoping there might be some additional logging or clip ID functionality.

I'm think, perhaps, that somehow "take lanes" may refer to something of this nature.

I'm curious.


best regards,
mike

Track layers still seem buggy to me.  If you rebuild layers there's no telling where solos/mutes will show up.  Layers jump around, sometimes wind up on top of each other.  I'm hoping this feature will fix all that and provide easy comping, maybe like Reaper does.

The main difference is that the Lanes live outside of the host track, like automation lanes do. Layers, on the other hand, would all live in the main track, and things could get very small and fidgety if you had a lot of takes/ layers in a single track. 

There's also a section for writing notes next to each lane, as well as per-lane Record buttons and Edit Filters. As such you will be able to record directly into a given lane and also show Clips or AudioSnap transients on a per-lane basis, all of which were impossible with layers.

Additionally, the Inline PRV behaves uniquely as its own, independent PRV in lanes on MIDI and Instrument tracks. So, you could have multiple Lanes on a single track driving different parts of a multi-timbrel synth (handy for MIDI drum arrangement and other things). Or be able to manage different MIDI takes in their own, separate Inline PRV for editing, all with their own Mute, Solo, and Record buttons. 

As you can see its a pretty big feature that touches many aspects of the program. We should have a blog post about this feature in the coming weeks with screenshots and a more in depth explanation. 

SP

Quick question.

How will the Take lanes effect the practice of monitoring input echo while recording.

I've abandoned hardware monitor routing and I no longer use the monitor matrix on my MOTU stuff either. I've become accustomed to setting up monitoring through SONAR and using pretty much any effect I wish as well.

When I consider the idea that the take lanes live outside the track it makes me wonder how input echo is going to work.

Will I still be able to live the dream and run the tracking monitoring through SONAR and it's fx bin and enjoy the low latency performance as I have for the past few years?


best regards,
mike

CoteRotie


Track layers still seem buggy to me.  If you rebuild layers there's no telling where solos/mutes will show up.  Layers jump around, sometimes wind up on top of each other.  I'm hoping this feature will fix all that and provide easy comping, maybe like Reaper does.

yep.  if the take lanes fix the layer bugs, even via alternate functionality, one of the few Sonar problems that I haven't eventually been able to work around.

I'm hoping to find out that take lanes will run all sound through the track just like a layer.

best,
mike

I'd have to see this in action to see the benefits! I kinda hope for a video to see some of the workflow possibilities that often escape me at first haha. I would love to be able to archive unused takes a lot easier than duplicating tracks, archiving them, and then moving unused clips to the archived tracks. When I record a 16-track drumkit at anything over 44.1k, dropouts take place after 3 takes unless I begin archiving.

mike_mccue


Quick question.

How will the Take lanes effect the practice of monitoring input echo while recording.

I've abandoned hardware monitor routing and I no longer use the monitor matrix on my MOTU stuff either. I've become accustomed to setting up monitoring through SONAR and using pretty much any effect I wish as well.

When I consider the idea that the take lanes live outside the track it makes me wonder how input echo is going to work.

Will I still be able to live the dream and run the tracking monitoring through SONAR and it's fx bin and enjoy the low latency performance as I have for the past few years?


best regards,
mike

That's my main question, and I'm hoping for perhaps even lower latency, based on this listed "new feature":
 
Improved low latency audio engine

Uh, take lanes you can take with your whereas layers just pile on?