Hunting the processing culprit

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2015/01/05 22:14:30 (permalink)

Hunting the processing culprit

I have a project with about 20 audio tracks. Most of these have EQ on them. They route to buses with further effects such as echo and reverb. Half a dozen of them have automation envelopes on them, for volume or effects levels. Running X3 on Windows 7 64-bit. I've built much more complicated music on this same setup before many times.
 
After leaving this project for about six months, I have just re-opened it and now it crackles a lot. Bypassing effects globally causes all crackling to stop, so something in the effects or automation is causing the crackling. The CPU meters sit around 30-70% when FX is on, about 5-25% when bypassed.
 
To determine the CPU hog, I saved the project to a new name and started removing automation, then effects. One by one as I deleted an effect or automation envelope, the crackles gradually became less and less, and finally when all effects and automation were gone, the crackling was gone. 
 
But with all automation deleted and only 4-5 tracks with EQ still on them, I was still experiencing some crackling. Why? That's hardly anything. Last year I built a whole album with songs with tons or tracks and effects, never experienced this problem. I bought an SSD for Christmas and put everything on it but no difference.
 
My hardware is all the same, (except for the SSD, and I was having the same issue before I installed that). My synths, both soft and rack, are also the same. Everything's the same, except it's six months later.
 
Before someone says "corrupt project" let me also add that I made another song around the same time, and I'm experiencing new crackling with that one too. I haven't gone through all the investigative steps, but just in case someone claims it's unique to this project, it isn't.
 
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/05 22:34:07 (permalink)
    Hmm....what video card are you using?...ati? or nvidia?...and mouse?...some mice and video cards have issues with Daws....I find in some windows in certain daws, when I put my mouse over the tracks window or plugin windows...I get clicks and pops...so I do not move my rodent when recording...Yes it is a gaming Mouse logitec G500...But I really like the weight of it when fully loaded with weight...and I feel very comfortable using it....even though I was told to change it to something more simple.
     
    HDMI AUDIO on video cards...may be a problem also...might want to defeat that if you are not using it...
     
    and if you are not using onboard audio device...turn that off if you can...and nic cards...just to free up some IRQs and see what happens then with a test run..
     Might as well turn off all redundant devices in device manager, like wi fi also...and shut down any third party background apps or virus checker...malware progs...if running em.
     
     
    Best of luck....let us know what occurs.
     
     

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/05 22:42:21 (permalink)
    The thing of it is, whatever I'm using video/audio/accessory-wise is the same thing I was using six months ago. I don't use this computer for much else beyond Sonar projects. No NIC card, no gaming anything, relatively simple mouse. HDMI is used for one of my two monitors, but again, same setup as before.

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/05 23:52:57 (permalink)
    Did you update the video driver recently or make updates to the OS?
    If you feel that nothing has changed....then what causes this to arise?...if it was not before, something has changed Right?....If you do not use the HD audio on the video card..or do not need to...try and see...no harm will come...and if not you can turn it back on.....troubleshooting ...gotta start somewhere.....wink.

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/05 23:56:39 (permalink)
    any odd weather causing power brown outs or failures of electrical?....parts do ware out...
     
    What about defrag?...any word on to do or not to do?....or was it done before moving the data to the new ssd?...

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 00:03:54 (permalink)
    Oh x3?...x3e solved a problem with pro channel noise...but not sure it cannot come back...just thinking out loud.....sorry I see you got that in the descript of your system....but it says x3 in the top part. 
     

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 00:05:59 (permalink)
    You say you are having "crackling," and the assumption is apparently that this is due to an overload of the processor. Assuming that the crackling is due to dropouts, it does not automatically follow that the problem is the result of processor overload. Anything that interrupts the flow of audio data can produce that symptom. For example, too small a buffer, or a look ahead buffer somewhere in the system can interrupt the flow even when you have plenty of computing power. What is the CPU meter showing in Sonar and in Windows when the crackling is there?
     
     
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/view-cpu-utilization-performance-information#1TC=windows-7
     
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 00:11:35 (permalink)
    and what are the buffer settings being used....?

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 00:25:15 (permalink)
    M audio Delta not finding that completely as stated...but other models with more numbers at the end...like 10/10...etc/legacy cards and breakout boxes....could be something with the PCI buss?....check shared Irqs in the start /accessories/system tools /system info....and select irqs, and see what is sharing.....?
     

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 00:29:12 (permalink)
    PCI buss...Asus what board?....what chipset?...

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 00:50:10 (permalink)
    Just saying out loud...not to be a pest or Razz you to madness....
    Remember things do not last forever, that Humans Make these days,...older stuff used well has a life span....Some of this new soldering technique used in modern gear, is in my opinion weakly done in ovens these days or rivers Just enough to stick the part on by robots, and when heated over time and time of use for long periods, soldered points can become loose or unsoldered at points of extreme heat build up...and may last 3-5 years...could go longer, but...that depends on a lot of things being put into place properly and maintained and cooled, some Asus capacitors for CPU on older boards I have had, can go bad and start leaking around cpu and onboard video card chips and such!...and certainly to help keep out the nasties of power supplied in smooth sine wave or good power bar, or back up to reduce spikes on electrical can increase life expectancy of the gear, upgraded from time to time....and the old stuff is nice, but has a life span....If nothing has changed....then it is time to rethink a new machine/audio device....Perhaps? as a legacy device is being used on a pci bus...it means you are a bit old in the usage of that system, and things do not last forever humans make these days........Perhaps is a direction one might ponder?

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 01:19:20 (permalink)
    Now asking questions, but looking into other thoughts I posted above...when you tax the cpu it seems to do odd things at this point, and reducing that stress reduces the oddity....So is your cpu toasting slowly with the work load you are asking it to do, and have done over time much with....I see you have some tunes posted up....Nice, and many......see what I mean?...we could trouble shoot this to the end of time....and never get it solved, if it is just a old system dying slowly....if we do not take all info in correctly, and get all info posted correctly to service this,....assumption are taken at times liberally....could be your cpu is on the way out of processing due to extreme heat or ware, or use, or age, or just not capable to run X3e and plugs you want to use, at this time line of time, with what you have?....could be?.....But let us get more info...and see....Buffer settings, irq shared states if any...and then...checking the logs...event viewer views...so on and so forth...dcp checker....and such ...run or looked into...and there are a lot of people here...that know what errors to look for in that process.
     
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 20:52:43 (permalink)
    OK, so I've gone through all the posts (thank you!!) and here's what I've found:
     
    No updates to video driver or OS, other than any automatic Windows updates.
     
    It is indeed X3e.
     
    Defrag happens automatically every week.
     
    The audio interface is just listed as M-Audio Delta Audiophile. In the Sound dialog it lists S/PDIF, Line 1/2, and Multichannel. Line 1/2 is what I have selected as default. (I have no idea what any of those mean.)
     
    As for the buffer sizes, I've changed them up and down everywhere between 64 and 2048, and no change has ever made any difference (to playback). That's in Sonar. The audio driver's interface is external to Sonar, and the ASIO/WDM buffer size is set at 256. Any other setting either higher or lower and the crackles get much, much worse.
     
    As for the IRQ settings, M-Audio Delta Audiophile is at IRQ 16, which is shared with Intel ICH10 Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 3A4A as well as Intel ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A37. At the bottom of this post is the System Summary from msinfo32.
     
    I can ponder the outdated-ness of my gear, but before I bought a new system I would probably re-install Windows and start from scratch to see if things clear up. The idea of buying a new workstation makes me both giddy (new techie toy!) and depressed (re-installation and the inevitable Thing That Doesn't Work As Well As It Used To)
     
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 21:18:19 (permalink)
    You could try reinstalling the interface drivers and see what happens.
     
    Also, pop open task manager and see if anything else is running. 
     
    Run the DPC Latency checker and see what kind of results you get.
     
    The last time I had a slow down like that in coincided with upgrading my video card and once I did I got an unusually large speed boost in my performance. 
     
    You may want to run some disk checking tools too, just in case something is getting ready to fail. Sometimes they really do crash gradually, hopefully long enough to do a good backup! :-)
     

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/06 22:32:58 (permalink)
    could ram failure or unseating of sticks/dust cause this?  Also, I had lots of problems which began occurring from sketchy powerline which, even with a stabilizer/UPS, disappeared once I ran a new line... just reaching here...

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/07 11:52:48 (permalink)
    One more possibility: disks getting too full?  Even defragmented, that can impact performance.  Just an idea...
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/08 06:21:28 (permalink)
    Sounds like its your audio card buffer is too low.
     
    You need to change the buffer on your audio card not sonar.  To do this go into your audio card software and change the buffer to 2048 then go into sonar and under the preferences menu click apply on the audio driver and it will pick up the sound cards buffer.  Then it should work fine
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/08 07:07:50 (permalink)
    Is this a laptop or desktop? My laptop is terrible even with the largest buffers and best audio interfaces when on power saving mode. When on "performance" mode (manually tweaking everything for maximum performance) it's a real workhorse.
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/08 07:49:40 (permalink)
    I see someone's already mentioned DPC Latency Checker, which will tell you if you have a DPC latency problem, but not much else.
     
    Far more use is LatenceyMon, which will attempt to work out what the cause is. Download that from here:
     
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/08 11:13:43 (permalink)
    If increasing the buffer size to 2048 doesn't change anything, DPC latency may indeed be your problem. You can experience this symptom even though the CPU meter shows low numbers.
     
    "DPC latency" refers to the system overhead incurred by processing hardware interrupts. Every adapter (video, audio, disk, network, USB) in the box generates a hardware interrupt whenever data is transferred to or from it. These interrupt handlers run at an elevated priority, so they take precedence over everything else.
     
    Sometimes, an adapter or its driver gets greedy and takes an inordinate amount of CPU time, time that's taken away from other adapters and processes. The result is that data transfers to your audio interface can't be processed fast enough and you get interruptions in the data stream that manifest themselves as clicks and pops.
     
    Why wasn't this a problem six months ago? It's because something has changed. It could have happened without your knowledge in a Windows Update, it could have been new software you've installed, a plugin update, or even some setting change that you'd never suspect would impact audio performance.
     
    So your first step is to either confirm or eliminate DPC latency as the root of your problem. The LatencyMon tool suggested above will at least offer some clues, and if you're lucky it'll definitively point out the culprit. Be sure to read the informative tutorial they've posted at that link. It might seem mind-numblingly technical on the first pass, but it's good stuff to know about.


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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/08 11:47:49 (permalink)
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    The thing of it is, whatever I'm using video/audio/accessory-wise is the same thing I was using six months ago.


    Though this seems to be the most relevant thing, you kind of need to let it go because it only tells you not to try everything to fix it. You have to look at things it can't possibly be. I had a stutter on older projects last week. The now line would update every 1-2 seconds and not run smooth. Couldn't figure it out. My 2 monitors run off the i7 mobo on HDMI and DVI. I switched the HDMI to the main monitor and DVI to no. 2. That fixed it. And that couldn't have been a problem, but... I had a PCI card that had USB's on it and if I put the mouse on that card instead of the mobo all kinds of weird stuff went on. I threw out all PCI cards I had and only use PCIe for more USB or anything. If you have eliminated the possible or probable then only "it can't be that" is left. A wireless mouse of keyboard on a PCI card waiting around for it's turn can be a PIA. Unless  you have not updated Windows or any software your system is no the same as it was. Thinking "it worked on that latency setting before so it can't be that" is not true. So try what these guys are telling you. They are smart, have a lot of experience and want to see it fixed.                   

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/08 22:06:54 (permalink)
    Min system requirements for X3 is in cpu terms: Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2.67 GHz
     
    I think you are a bit low in that term...E5400.
     
    Are you using HD Audo through the video HDMI?..or have it enabled?
     
    So here we have a problem, you are below minimum I believe...it might run, and you may have done a lot with it....but you are pushing it with this setup in truth.....Right?...and that means just running sonar...never mind plugs!
     
    That Asus system is the low end run....Be mindful...You want good results in computer music production...You should put in some more dosh...as it is a cash cow kind thing....No disrespect, or ill will ...Just my truth found many moons ago!
     
    Best wishes....I'll keep you posted if I find more input as I asked for...and try to see if that HD hdmi audio is on, and turn it off.
    post edited by Sir Les - 2015/01/08 22:13:48

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    2.  USING MAC PRO, as win 10 has damaged 2 x99 systems 8.1 is also to blame for the final burnout trying to roll back!
     
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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/08 22:38:35 (permalink)
    So no MB Manual of merit for this Motherboard...to seek irq share slots if any, or any nice pictures of it found Yet of the inners of that system, and others are having issues finding also.
     
    So a windows System info...is ok...but the IRQ listing is what I want to see...and devices being used...please..
     
    If you got internet device on, then turn it off, wi fi, turn it off...and then try again.
     
    As I cannot truly see why one would put a below min system spec through the stress test, find problems, and ask what is wrong....When it is appearently the cpu and system is not capable of doing what you want to do with it perfectly as the builders ask for a standard be met first.....And I do not think you have.
     
    And 4gb for windows 7 might be fine, but top that with EW which uses plugs to memory...or hardrive, and yet still used cpu loads....might just put that smoking cpu into fits of frantic convolutions...add some plugs ins...and you got problems!....Right?...so you got 6gb...not much difference really.

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/08 22:56:40 (permalink)
    Perhaps a earlier version, that has no bugs of Sonar, might prove better performance for you with this system spec...?

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/12 15:45:23 (permalink)
    If you have a backup image more than 6 months old, you could always restore that as a sanity check. (Then load up the project and see if you get the crackles or not)

    Just be sure to make a backup image from today so you can get yourself back to where you are now.

    I have a Delta66 (not a million on miles different than your audiophile). If I get crackles like that, it's from high CPU usage, and increasing the Delta buffers will fix it. I'm just saying - that's where I'd look.

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    Re: Hunting the processing culprit 2015/01/13 00:03:33 (permalink)
    In a recent post from Craig A he had a similar experience. After much trouble shooting he took the project, made cakewalk bundle file then reopened it. It seems that some times a corruption can creep into audio and project files that once having been through the bundling, de bundling process is then fixed.

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