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2018/03/12 18:51:52 (permalink)

I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings

Why wouldn't someone post links to recordings and collabs they've done here on the forums? This question has always puzzled me. Seems like it's the reason we have Sonar and visit the Songs Forum. I admit I have only posted around 10 tunes of just me but have post three times as many collaborations though out the years. Most of my stuff doesn't have a lot of midi and some are just solo guitar recordings. I would have posted more but health problems keep interfering with that process. I plan to post more if the forums are still around for that. I love what I have heard here and it's been a real pleasure checking out all the music. 

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/12 19:55:46 (permalink)
Perhaps they're worried about criticism?  Or being ignored?
 
I've posted a few songs, but am pretty cautious.  I respect a lot of the members, and only want to show my best.  Most of the drivel that I record I wouldn't dream of playing for anyone.
 
I also don't seem to have much time to participate and listen/analyse other people's songs, and kinda feel like I should do that more in return for people lending an ear to mine.

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/12 20:50:27 (permalink)
I've posted a few of my experiments and of course Ed and have done everything from silly to pretty durned heavy but the past 8 months or so I've been hunkering down with all things I've learned to polish off an unfinished album of my old band. It was/is completely ganked so it's been a TON of ultra tedious mapping, corrections, editing, etc.
 
THEN there is the whole matter of "relearning" and practising my parts (just totally frantic speed stuff that was a buttload easier to pull off as healthy young man than it is now) as well as writing/practicing quality bass and rhythm guit parts WITHOUT losing the actual feel/sound of the original rhythm section... which was a huge part of our sound. It's just those performances from the OG members were way too sloppy for a good studio album.
 
At this point I have gotten most everything written and can play it all the way I like as well as found the most complimentary track/mix config. eg: I was gonna do doubles of the rthm guits but realized since the lead guit is also doing a rhythm part (but a different one that slips in and out of little frilly francy's and solos) it sounded more raw/powerful and, most importantly, like the original band when I just have the two going and mucking with the panning as needed. I've also come up with wacky solutions to weight the guits so when the lead guit jumps up into the higher freqs some of the rhythm gets fed to opposite stereo channel to make up for the drop in low mid volume. There's going to need to be some automation to pull it off but of course I'll save that for the end. Right now it's just like I'm jamming with a really tight version of the band which is great for tracking.
 
If my goddamned back would quit being an arse and I could find a decent doctor this would be moving along MUCH quicker. Maybe that's how the universe wants it done though. Me forced to spend less time in front of the DAW spazzing out and more time contemplating exactly what will make this bugger sound the way I want.
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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/12 21:25:29 (permalink)
Slugbaby
I also don't seem to have much time to participate and listen/analyse other people's songs, and kinda feel like I should do that more in return for people lending an ear to mine.



That's kinda why I don't post - I don't feel like I have enough time to contribute to the listening of other's music, and plus I'm an awful critic and have real trouble explaining why I do or don't like something. So I'd feel like just saying "I like it!" or "it didn't really work for me" would be a cop out, even though that's pretty much how deep my mind goes into analyzing my subjective tastes 

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/12 21:42:57 (permalink)
I only comment on songs I've been invited to comment on because I think my earballs and general tastes in production styles are a bit specific and perhaps a little odd. I find I just end up spewing a bunch of little things that are (subjectively) mucking things up and considering the superior talent we have here my input isn't necessary in many cases and can come of as cold, overly critical and perhaps jerky.
 
Besides. My "expertise" lies mostly in the creation of heavy music with lots of guits and although we do seem to be getting more and more of a "heavy" oriented crowd over the years (or they're just coming out of their metal closets) most of the stuff posted just isn't in my wheelhouse and I am unqualified to properly critique anyway.
 
For example... for pop/dancey type stuff the best answer I can give is "do what Quincy Jones would". That of course is great advice IMO but probably a little bit outdated to how those genres (and the tech used) have evolved to the present day.
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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/13 12:58:35 (permalink)
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That's kinda why I don't post - I don't feel like I have enough time to contribute to the listening of other's music, and plus I'm an awful critic and have real trouble explaining why I do or don't like something. So I'd feel like just saying "I like it!" or "it didn't really work for me" would be a cop out, even though that's pretty much how deep my mind goes into analyzing my subjective tastes 


Most of what I DO listen to ends up with "i like it", or a brief self-centred explanation of why I don't (usually just not my thing).  I'm usually at work on a mono earphone, and can't properly focus on whether the kick is side-chaining the bass properly, so i'm stuck with a general impression of the song.  But I'd rather see an acknowledgement that you've listened, as opposed to silence.
 
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Besides. My "expertise" lies mostly in the creation of heavy music with lots of guits and although we do seem to be getting more and more of a "heavy" oriented crowd over the years (or they're just coming out of their metal closets) most of the stuff posted just isn't in my wheelhouse and I am unqualified to properly critique anyway.
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Don't knock your opinion on 'non-metal'.  You once listened to one of my tracks and said "it reminds me of Toronto."  that was a huge compliment, and was very encouraging.

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/13 14:05:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby patm300e 2018/03/14 11:28:51
Hey bayou bill, I don't believe there is a definitive answer to your query. 
 
I post a LOT of "songs" on the songs forum.  I get very few comments or listens.  Though I wish everybody loved me, I realize that is impossible, so few comments or listens are out of my control. 
 
I also don't comment on many songs myself.  I listen more than I comment.  The amount of quality music on the song forum is staggering. 
 
I think everyone posts or does not post for a different reason.  In the big picture I'm not sure it really matters.  Peoples comes and peoples goes, there is an empty chair waiting for you, where the last person sat, before they passed, or moved on down the road.  Once your off the front page, all your efforts become part of the collective heap, and we are all equal still.
 
I look forward to hearing your next song on the forum.
 
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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/13 14:43:10 (permalink)
Post a song.


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Less effort to just go out on the back porch.

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/13 17:58:10 (permalink)
bayoubill
Why wouldn't someone post links to recordings and collabs they've done here on the forums? 


a lot of folks don't bother even looking the songs forum.
kinda weird, eh?
 

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/13 18:48:55 (permalink)
I'll admit to not going by the songs forum very often. I'm usually limited in my time here and I feel I need to dedicate some quality time there to listen, so I kind of cop out and don't stop by much. 
I have posted a few tunes there occasionally and I am overwhelmed by the support and suggestions on mixes. I feel I can't always return that favor. Unlike other threads here I view it as a teamwork reciprocation kind of thing. It is only right to comment after a fair listen of the mix. I want to return the favor, enjoy the music and generally be a team player. Unfortunately I don't always have the time that this requires. Scuse' my french here but I don't want to approach the area half a**ed.
We do have a lot of very talented people here in all genres. If you have the time to do so I think it's a great place to hang out.

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/14 02:00:05 (permalink)
I promise all of you that if you post your song, I will give unconditionally positive feedback, because we're snowflakes, no?

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/14 02:34:08 (permalink)
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Don't knock your opinion on 'non-metal'.  You once listened to one of my tracks and said "it reminds me of Toronto."  that was a huge compliment, and was very encouraging.




It really did though. What happened with that one? Is it in play?
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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/14 03:40:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2018/03/14 10:58:18
I Am way past caring about being criticized and long ago resigned myself to below par to all in the forums participants. It helped. after all My lead singer is a cat and bass player a tree     ( long story, ask Bapu)

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/14 12:48:09 (permalink)
I used to both post and listen/comment on a regular basis, but I grew tired of the fragile egos, constant tactical bumping and narcissism , so now I don't. 
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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/14 14:25:36 (permalink)
Once it evolved into the 'mastering' forum instead of the 'songs' forum, I stopped going there.
I can write songs, good or bad, but I can't master the mastering.

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/14 15:21:17 (permalink)
if you need to learn mastering (which apparently you do) where is a better place?
 

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/14 15:25:26 (permalink)
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Once it evolved into the 'mastering' forum instead of the 'songs' forum, I stopped going there.
I can write songs, good or bad, but I can't master the mastering.


I just go to listen and give my amateur 1.5 cents worth (the opposite end of the mastering spectrum....tell em what us mere mortals hear ).
 
I keep it simples, be honest, and for mastering I use Ozone 7's presets. :))

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Re: I Am Curious About Posting Your Sonar Recordings 2018/03/15 15:25:53 (permalink)
Most of the time I'm on the forum, I'm using my laptop. Doesn't do any songs justice, listening on that.
I seldom upload songs, as I have problems finishing projects
Must get better at it

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