I DON'T Want To Specify A Project Name And Directory Every Time I Start A New Project!!!

Corling, I think you're wanting to improvise, experiment, without making it an "official project" at first. Right?-- Well, you'll be saving whatever you do before closing the program, otherwise all your work will be lost.  So it's either you save it in the first place, or stop and set up a save folder before you close-- so what difference does it make?

You really need to have an audio folder per project set up, and that means needing a folder for the project - another reason to just stop 1 second and set things up in the first place.

You can call the project "X" or "blah"--that doesn't matter.  You'll have a folder set up, and inside that folder you can save more developed versions with new names - and they'll share the same audio folder as well as the same master folder.

---There's no such thing as a program that magically saves your work without it being called something and residing Somewhere on your hard drive.  That's why Sonar, and any program in existence, won't let you do exactly what you're saying in this post.  But maybe I've given you some helpful ideas in this reply.

Randy B.

In addition to Sonar X1 Producer, I also use FL Studio and it allows you do this. I agree with Corling. I like to open the program and start doing something such as experimet with plugins, try out a riff, or just fool around. And not start a new or current project. To me it's a waste of time. If I want to save it I can, if not, close the program. Sometimes I just like to experiment whether I save what I've done or not.

Yes.  Sometimes, I just want to check if a certain VST synth or audio plugin is going to load.  Or I need to look at something quickly to help someone here in the forum.

I have Sonar configure at the old way, so I don't have to enter a name or choose an audio folder(I don't even need to manage my audio files)

The only way I know of to do that is to uncheck store data check mark, then you can.

Yup - just uncheck it and you don't have to specify a name or anything.  I do this all the time when I'm throwing down a quick idea but not actually 'working'

Sorry, but where's the "store data" check box? I searched the .pdf and came up empty.

Thanks-

-Susan

i use the normal template for this also. 

Saintom

Corling


Instead of Sonar requiring that I name a project and give it a directory every time I start a new project, it is totally plausible for it to allow me to start an UNNAMED project and save it later.

Why won't Sonar let me do this?

Sonar will let you do this, with Sonar open press Ctrl+n, a new project will open that you don't have to name anything until you save it

HTH

Tom

Cool Beans!  That works perfect!  Thanks!
 

i have found it useful to create a template and call it something like "generic 16 track" or some such.  then just open that one every time you want to start a new project instead of selecting "new" which requires you to enter a project name and all that.  And you can go ahead and set up your basics like you like them so they'll always be there in the right place when you are ready to begin.  0It works like a charm for me since i mainly use the same basic instruments when i start out.

Susan G


Sorry, but where's the "store data" check box? I searched the .pdf and came up empty.

Thanks-

-Susan

Where should I be looking?

Anyone?

Thanks-

-Susan

Susan G

Susan G


Sorry, but where's the "store data" check box? I searched the .pdf and came up empty.

Thanks-

-Susan

Where should I be looking?

Anyone?

Thanks-

-Susan

Susan - Preferences>Files>Advanced - check "On Startup load Normal Template".  I just tried it and it works!

guitartrek

Susan G

Susan G


Sorry, but where's the "store data" check box? I searched the .pdf and came up empty.

Thanks-

-Susan

Where should I be looking?

Anyone?

Thanks-

-Susan

Susan - Preferences>Files>Advanced - check "On Startup load Normal Template".  I just tried it and it works!

Thanks guitartrek, but I don't think that's the same as what they're talking about in post #10 -- "uncheck the store data checkbox", is it?

I looked earlier, but didn't find that box anywhere in X1 or 8.5.3. If it's new to X1 it doesn't really matter, since my trial just expired. ;) I'd still like to know what setting they're referring to, though. I couldn't find "store data" anywhere in the X1 .pdf, so maybe it's called something else.

Thanks-

-Susan

If you don't have the "On Startup load Normal Template" option set when you start a new file you'll have a box that is checked by default that says "Store Project Audio in it's own Folder". You can uncheck this every or time change the setting in preferences.

Oh, is that what they were talking about! Thanks for putting me out of my misery!

-Susan

rbowser


What an odd, unexpected thing.  After reading the first post, then the replies after my initial replies - I realize that the concept being talked about is so alien to me that I don't think I even really get it.  It takes seconds to name a file, even if it's X, and even if it's just a session of trying out synths etc -  it's a "project" which I may open multiple times to dink around with, even if no actual data is saved  - But I always name a project Something, since it literally takes seconds to type X and get on with it.  Interesting that it's some kind of issue. 

I realize now that I've never opened any program, word program, graphic program, music program - Anything, without calling the session Something.

Maybe it's because I think all my ideas are so golden, so Naturally I'm going to want to save even the most trivial of my ideas. 

Randy B.

Well, diff'rent strokes and all that! I stopped using the "I'll just call it x" approach after running into the "Project with that name already exists, please choose another" message one too many times -- in other words, the second time. I certainly didn't want to open "x" to see what it was right then, and I didn't want a bunch of projects with meaningless names building up.

Of all the apps I've used, I can think of very few that "force" the user to name a project right away, although there are some that do of course, usually because they require a folder structure of some sort. I'd hate it if every time I opened TextPad or Word or Excel or blah-blah it forced me to choose a file name.

I'd forgotten about Ctrl+N in SONAR, though that's a neat way around it. I've used my "blank.cwp" and variations on it with different synths, etc. for a long time, and they're pinned to SONAR in my taskbar for easy access.

-Susan

Susan G

rbowser


What an odd, unexpected thing.  After reading the first post, then the replies after my initial replies - I realize that the concept being talked about is so alien to me that I don't think I even really get it.  It takes seconds to name a file, even if it's X, and even if it's just a session of trying out synths etc -  it's a "project" which I may open multiple times to dink around with, even if no actual data is saved  - But I always name a project Something, since it literally takes seconds to type X and get on with it.  Interesting that it's some kind of issue. 

I realize now that I've never opened any program, word program, graphic program, music program - Anything, without calling the session Something.

Maybe it's because I think all my ideas are so golden, so Naturally I'm going to want to save even the most trivial of my ideas. 

Randy B.

Well, diff'rent strokes and all that! I stopped using the "I'll just call it x" approach after running into the "Project with that name already exists, please choose another" message one too many times -- in other words, the second time. I certainly didn't want to open "x" to see what it was right then, and I didn't want a bunch of projects with meaningless names building up.

Of all the apps I've used, I can think of very few that "force" the user to name a project right away, although there are some that do of course, usually because they require a folder structure of some sort. I'd hate it if every time I opened TextPad or Word or Excel or blah-blah it forced me to choose a file name.

I'd forgotten about Ctrl+N in SONAR, though that's a neat way around it. I've used my "blank.cwp" and variations on it with different synths, etc. for a long time, and they're pinned to SONAR in my taskbar for easy access.

-Susan

Thanks, Susan - I get it now, and I can see why it could be a slight annoyance if someone wants to just noodle but doesn't want to spend 2 seconds in setting up a project in the regular Sonar way.  I just hadn't ever really thought about it.  When I open Word, for instance, the first thing I do is name a project file for what I'm doing.  It's such a habit I was thinking that I Had to do that I guess.

Note - I didn't mean naming a scratch project literally "X"--that was for filling in the blank.  On the rare occasion when I know I probably won't be saving any work, what I actually type is jibberish for the name, i.e. "qpqp" "jpo" --hehe.

TobyBear's Mini-Host - That's what I use if I just want to noodle on my keyboard.  I don't open Sonar for that.  Mini-Host is a neat shareware program that turns any VST synth into a stand-alone.  I open a synth up through that and play.

Randy B.