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2018/08/30 01:56:42 (permalink)

I Don't Get It

No disrespect meant to anyone but why do certain members run to a moderator when a post offends them? I get the rules and all but most of these offensive posts would go away quietly wthout moderation.

I understand people are sensitive to political and religious views but too many interesting (imo) posts in the past have been closed. Some of Steve Strummer's religious posts come to mind.

If you do not like the way a post is going all you have to do is ignore it. What's so difficult about that?

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 04:16:31 (permalink)
wtf!

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 07:55:08 (permalink)
Maybe some think silence is a sign of approval, and they refuse to approve?
I'd enjoy a spicy debate about almost whatever under the sun, as long as it is carried out in a respectful and civilized manner. Unfortunately, years have proved that to be something next to impossible - it always gets ugly or off track.
 
One of the reasons might be the nature of a web-debate: One writer bases his/her opinions on years of studies/professional experience/education, one on religious or political things and the third one on what he/she heard on the subway this morning.
They  all feel they have a good case, but the starting points are too far apart. Internets curse "every opinion has equal weight" makes it really hard to have a discussion that makes any sense for longer than half a dozen posts.

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 11:51:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2018/08/30 13:12:31
It's a bit pointless starting a political thread here, it'll always get locked eventually. Ironically, Bapu's forum has a section for political discussion, and guess what? No-one uses it.

 
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 13:52:24 (permalink)
It seems that most people don't know how to agree to disagree. It's OK to respect people for standing up for what they believe in, even though you might completely disagree with their views.
 
 I have some of my very good friends of mine who have completely different views/beliefs when it comes to religion and politics, but we don't try to impose our beliefs on each other. 

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 14:12:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Voda La Void 2018/08/30 14:39:20
It leads to name-calling, insults, and general bad feelings, which leads to banning.
Plus, it's pointless.

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 14:47:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2018/08/30 15:41:42
Steve's pen is pointless.
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 15:46:57 (permalink)
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It's a bit pointless starting a political thread here, it'll always get locked eventually. Ironically, Bapu's forum has a section for political discussion, and guess what? No-one uses it.




There are a lot of places on the internet to discuss politics. The problem is that nobody discusses anything. They just start yelling and throwing insults. I'm so sick of politics in a world dominated by social media. It's nice to avoid it some times. We are too polarised right now.

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 19:43:50 (permalink)
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Steve's pen is pointless.



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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 19:51:51 (permalink)
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 Internets curse "every opinion has equal weight" makes it really hard to have a discussion that makes any sense for longer than half a dozen posts.



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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/30 19:54:57 (permalink)
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No disrespect meant to anyone but why do certain members run to a moderator when a post offends them? I get the rules and all but most of these offensive posts would go away quietly wthout moderation.

I understand people are sensitive to political and religious views but too many interesting (imo) posts in the past have been closed. Some of Steve Strummer's religious posts come to mind.

If you do not like the way a post is going all you have to do is ignore it. What's so difficult about that?




 
I'm not really convinced that complaints are actually received a lot of the time. There are of course those that like to be "offended" because it somehow makes them feel superior, but I think just as often there is no actual complaint and it's just a convenient excuse for the moderator to wield the power stick and blame someone else for being the spoilsport.
 
Not saying that this is the case on this occasion, but it's also hard to believe that there was anything for anyone to complain about in the locked thread.
 
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 00:19:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby eph221 2018/09/05 17:05:47
I didn't know there was such a thing as a civilized web debate, I have yet to see one that doesn't spin out of control. I don't think people know how to respect a difference of opinion any more.

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 00:21:34 (permalink)
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Steve's pen is pointless.


Penless Steve was appointed?

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 02:22:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby eph221 2018/09/05 17:05:58
I don't get it either. What is so hard to understand about "Discussion of off-topic music related subjects. No politics. No religion?"

That's the rules. Don't cry when you violate them and get shut down.

Nothing good ever comes of such "discussions." They always degenerate into bitterness and name calling. I've been as guilty as anyone else in the past, but I have repented. I have decided to do my best to stay away and not get sucked in; things have happened to make me realize where my priorities truly lie and they are NOT in proving to everyone that I am right.

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 03:26:45 (permalink)
Lincoln wasn't shot...FAKE NEWS!!!
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 04:27:46 (permalink)
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I didn't know there was such a thing as a civilized web debate, I have yet to see one that doesn't spin out of control. I don't think people know how to respect a difference of opinion any more.

I'm a gree.  DifferAnce.

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 14:01:58 (permalink)
This seems to be pointing to something specific I'm unaware of. FWIW I have never reported anyone or anything to a moderator. I'm not saying I never would, but it is highly unlikely. If anything this forum is well moderated. At one time I think is was a bit over moderated. Maybe that's better than under moderated?
I was on an "anything goes" forum for awhile until they closed it. It didn't really bother me too much. The name calling by grown men usually starts...morons  It becomes a huge waste of time for nothing. No one is going to change their mind. The whole thing just devolves into a bunch of ugly stuff. I guess if you like mud wrestling to the death you might like that.
I think there are always a few who like to push the limits to see where they are or maybe they are just being themselves with no sensibilities, whatever the case they find out soon enough.
I had one post intended to be a funny thing directed toward McQue and I seen it was gone. Someone must have taken it the wrong way....oh well. If they took it like that then I would hope it was deleted.

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 14:12:07 (permalink)
We should probably fix the education system before we allow unmoderated debates here.
 
I have never complained but I do like moderators. In moderation.

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 19:33:23 (permalink)
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 FWIW I have never reported anyone or anything to a moderator. 





 
FWIW and speaking as someone that you actually did report that statement isn't quite true is it?
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 19:38:21 (permalink)
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We should probably fix the education system before we allow unmoderated debates here.
 
I have never complained but I do like moderators. In moderation.




Not just here, but anywhere and everywhere I think that anyone should be able to say whatever they like. If anyone else doesn't like or agree with  the opinions expressed by another, don't listen to / read them. It really is that simple. 
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 19:45:32 (permalink)
Wasn't me.
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 19:56:10 (permalink)
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Not just here, but anywhere and everywhere I think that anyone should be able to say whatever they like. If anyone else doesn't like or agree with  the opinions expressed by another, don't listen to / read them. It really is that simple. 


 
What fun would that be? 



 
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 19:58:48 (permalink)
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paulo
 
 
Not just here, but anywhere and everywhere I think that anyone should be able to say whatever they like. If anyone else doesn't like or agree with  the opinions expressed by another, don't listen to / read them. It really is that simple. 


 
What fun would that be? 






I find that watching somebody reveal the full extent of their ignorance can be quite amusing.
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 20:29:24 (permalink)
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Not just here, but anywhere and everywhere I think that anyone should be able to say whatever they like. If anyone else doesn't like or agree with  the opinions expressed by another, don't listen to / read them. It really is that simple. 


 
What fun would that be? 






I find that watching somebody reveal the full extent of their ignorance can be quite amusing.




You must be side-split and bollockless on a daily basis here then.

 
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 20:36:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby paulo 2018/08/31 21:02:54
paulo
 
I find that watching somebody reveal the full extent of their ignorance can be quite amusing.




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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 21:02:45 (permalink)
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paulo
 
 
Not just here, but anywhere and everywhere I think that anyone should be able to say whatever they like. If anyone else doesn't like or agree with  the opinions expressed by another, don't listen to / read them. It really is that simple. 


 
What fun would that be? 






I find that watching somebody reveal the full extent of their ignorance can be quite amusing.




You must be side-split and bollockless on a daily basis here then.




 
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/08/31 23:01:42 (permalink)
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 FWIW I have never reported anyone or anything to a moderator. 





 
FWIW and speaking as someone that you actually did report that statement isn't quite true is it?


Yes that statement is true.  I don't feel the need to report anything on a moderated forum. I have spoken to people who moderate occasionally....very occasionally, like almost never. That's a big difference between reporting someone to them.
Paulo...why would I ever need to report you? 

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/09/01 10:00:22 (permalink)
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 FWIW I have never reported anyone or anything to a moderator. 





 
FWIW and speaking as someone that you actually did report that statement isn't quite true is it?


Yes that statement is true.  I don't feel the need to report anything on a moderated forum. I have spoken to people who moderate occasionally....very occasionally, like almost never. That's a big difference between reporting someone to them.
Paulo...why would I ever need to report you? 




I don't come here looking for a fight or to "win" but if you really want me to I could post the link to my thread where you stated that you had reported it. Or we can just agree that your statement that you have never done such a thing may well contain fake news.
 
 
 
 
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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/09/01 14:48:53 (permalink)
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Not just here, but anywhere and everywhere I think that anyone should be able to say whatever they like. If anyone else doesn't like or agree with  the opinions expressed by another, don't listen to / read them. It really is that simple. 




On one hand I agree, on the other, not. Ignoring, say,  hate-mail and provocation based on ignorance and racism would make me feel like watching someone being mugged and doing nothing about it. 
Then again, I humbly admit that it's practically impossible to win anything in any forum-fight anywhere.
Everyone is entitled to ones opinions, in principle yes, but opinions are seldom only opinions, they usually lead to actions of some kind. If people only were more capable of moderating their own opinions... :o/
 

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Re: I Don't Get It 2018/09/01 17:27:20 (permalink)
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Not just here, but anywhere and everywhere I think that anyone should be able to say whatever they like. If anyone else doesn't like or agree with  the opinions expressed by another, don't listen to / read them. It really is that simple. 


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