I Guess Everyone's Pretty Happy With X3e?

Keni,
I'm running Sonar Producer X3e (build 352), I think it's the latest update, no problems here with X3e!

 X3c ? X3D?
 

I guess most of the issues with X3 have been brought to light, thrown about and generally, thoroughly discoursed. There's nothing to left to do but get on with music making and generally having a good time.
But then I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

rebel007
But then I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

I think George Carlin nailed it: "Some say the glass is half-empty. Others say the glass is half-full. I say you need a different-sized glass."

I don't even use it. As a program it works great but it's UI sucks and that's being EXTEMELY  generous about the UI. If they were going to give us 50 shades of grey they could have at least included the proper use of bondage in the manual.

Anderton

rebel007
But then I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

I think George Carlin nailed it: "Some say the glass is half-empty. Others say the glass is half-full. I say you need a different-sized glass."

I need a cakewalk coffee mug.

robert_e_bone
Uh - there is an 'E' update available.  (X3e).
 
And your signature still shows X3c, by the way.
 
Bob Bone
 

Thanks for noticing the sig Bob... I'll fix it ASAP...

Keni

We are working earning money with Sonar X3,that`s why we always want a perfect software.When things wont come exactly our way we tend to work around to keep on working (making music).So we are quiet and happy waiting for a next good upgrade Sonar X4 or maybe X5.
Peace

I'm really happy with it. There are things to fix and improve, and there always will be. But I spend all day most days working with it and getting stuff done. I think this is the most stable and efficient version so far, all the way back to Sonar 1.

Keni
But I depend on fast access to constantly varying zoom needs. It worked great for me up until the Lanes feature was implemented... Now some problems are "as intended" limitations and others are bugs... And it severely hinders my work.
Keni

It sounds like you might have experienced a version where these problems didn't exist?
So is there something in x3e that makes it worth dealing with the problems?
... and if not why are you not using the earlier version that didn't have the problems?

From my perception the buck stops with Arturia. It's them who should be chasing it up with Cakewalk regardless of who is at fault as it's their plugins that do not work. Going through them should be the main communication channel for the customer. Cheers...

re 3rd party compatibility:
 
Well, as much as Cake should be making the program as hospitable as possible for all the various plugin standards and possible aberrations AND take into account that they should be even MORE vigilant in this regard because they know that many of these companies may not be testing compatibility with Sonar because it doesn't hold as large a consumer base as other DAWs might the reverse is true as well...
 
There are only a handful of commonly used DAWs and while Sonar may not be in the top 3 or 5 or whatever the numbers are (please don't take that as me knowing anything about market share stuff because I don't but Sonar is not the most used DAW despite how cool it is and no one can deny that) it IS still used by MANY people and the companies writing plugins and doodads should be testing their wares with Sonar much more than Cakewalk should be testing their DAW with every known plugin on the market.
 
Basically how many DAWs are out there that are commonly used? 10? How many third party plugin manufacturers are there? 1000's? More?
 
Doesn't it make more sense for those 1000 companies to take the time to test their products with the top 10 DAWs than it does for the top ten DAW manufacturers to test every plugin on the market?
 
This is (IMO) one of the few benefits of shelling out for PT but in a half arsed, lazy way. They don't allow you to just use whatever you want. You pay a premium for the DAW and then another premium for Avid approved plugs because they've been tested and confirmed compatible... and even then you may run into problems.
 
So yeah... Cake should be more on top of compatibility and flexibility in regards to third party stuff because they KNOW that these other companies aren't really gonna go out of their way to test their product with Sonar because they are playing the odds that most of their customers don't use it... BUT those third party vendors are being lazy by doing so.
 
I think this is why we have seen Cake just say "F*ck it!" and load the program with almost any kind of tool one might need in hopes of avoiding the whole nonsense altogether and I don't blame them.
 
What will hopefully happen now that the Gibson name is slathered across the program and the X series has matured Sonar will end up taking a larger portion of the market and those third parties will realize that yes... they do indeed need to start including Sonar in their tests.
 
But that's just my interpretation of the issue and... well I'm relatively new to all this so whatever.
 
I'm just happy all my stuff is working at this point.
 

musicroom
I'm not happy at the moment. But that may change after I do a clean install of my OS and then X3. Right now, X2 is a much better performer on my computer. I know I'm in the minority, most people say X3 runs leaner than X2. Not the case here. 

That is indeed odd and unfortunate. Anything in particular going wrong or is it a syndrome type situation? Cheers.

Oh, yeah. That sounds like a plan.
 
Gawd I hate Vista. lol
 
You're really gonna like X3 once you get it running properly. It's like X2 graduated university, took some martial arts classes and learned the art of lovemaking from a Kama Sutra master.
 
Still won't make me a damned sammich though. I've filed a problem report about that though so fingers crossed.

Nothing like a clean install. Updates never do the job fully you just got to see the errors on the windows event viewer afterwards. Don't forget to run windows update several times inc optional updates before you install any applications (straight after windows install). Cheers.