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I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer

I do not wish to help others suffering through my depression and anhedonia (absence of pleasure). I only wish to help and inspire others through my pleasure alone and to dominate and be awesome in this life through my pleasure alone. I also wish to be regarded as an awesome person for having pleasure and creating awesome and empowering compositions through my pleasure. Suffering, despair, and lack of pleasure only serve to have a very negative loathsome value to me (even if they were to serve to make me a more empathetic person towards others suffering or even if my suffering made me more intelligent and creative). As a matter of fact, me growing as a person through my suffering does not matter to me. Growing as a person does not matter to me at all since I am just fine the way I already am and it is only my pleasure that matters to me and is the only thing that makes me and my personal life good and worth living.
 
Now I wanted to be a composer for the world of anime (Japanese cartoons) and videogames. My pleasure was the only thing for me that allowed me to percieve a profound bond and connection to the characters and their worlds and was the only thing that allowed me to be inspired by these worlds and characters. My depression and anhedonia only serve to disconnect that bond and inspiration not only in their worlds, but also in my own personal life with my family and other good things in my life. I now only feel a world of hopelessness and meaninglessness no matter what I perceive or think otherwise. So this is why I give up being a composer only until my full pleasure returns since me feeling awesome and feeling a profound bond, inspiration, and connection to good things in my life through my pleasure is the only thing to me that makes me and my life good. I may physically be able to bond and connect with my family and other good things in my life, but there really is no sense of bond, inspiration, motivation, or connection at all for me due to this depression and anhedonia. When I had my pleasure in the past and was able to bond and connect with the characters and their worlds, it was something truly great. I was inspired then and was ready to become a composer to inspire and empower others through this pleasure (sense of bond and connection) I had with these characters and their worlds. I also wanted to create compositions through this pleasure I had as well as other profound feelings of pleasure so that I can seek out and relate to those types of people who also share the same profound feelings of pleasure I have. But now, I am completely disconnected from the characters and their worlds. These characters and their worlds are now nothing more than just animated images, scenes, etc. without my pleasure. Even the most awesome, profound, and beautiful scenes from anime and videogames do not provoke any sense of profoundness, inspiration, or bond and connection. I may very well acknowledge them as being profound and awesome scenes. But that is not the same thing as me and my life having any profound good meaning, inspiration, or bond and connection with these characters and worlds.

My sense of disconnect and such is not the result of me attributing negative and neutral value to my suffering. My pleasure really is the only good thing in my life and is the only thing that makes me and my life good. My thoughts, other created good meanings in my mind, as well as everything else in my life including my own dreams without my pleasure are all nothing more than just different words, sounds, images, etc. In other words, they are all neutral (neither good or bad) things and it is only my pleasure that makes me and my life good while it is only my suffering that makes me and my life inferior, worthless, and bad. Again, it has nothing to do with me attributing a neutral value to these things. My thoughts and other created good meanings in my mind are all neutral in of themselves and it has nothing to do with me attributing a neutral value to them. This is because they are all neutral conscious experiences which means that there is no profound experience whatsoever from them without my pleasure and that my pleasure is the one and only profound good experience for me in life. Even if I were to perceive something as being good in my life without my pleasure, then that is still a neutral conscious experience and there is nothing profound and good about it. As a matter of fact, my mind would only be tricking me into perceiving that something is good in my life when the fact of the matter is that all of my thoughts and created meanings in life are nothing more than words, sounds, images, etc. in of themselves regardless of how I perceive them. These thoughts might be the words good and bad and might very well be good or bad meanings, but they are only good and bad in a neutral sense which means that they are not truly good or bad at all and that it is only our pleasure and suffering that are the true good and bad things in life. What I mean by "in a neutral sense" would mean that these thoughts are only good and bad in a fake sense.
 
I truly cannot perceive anything as being good in my life feeling depressed and also in having this anhedonia. Nor can I achieve any sense of bond, inspiration, or connection to anything or anyone good in my life. Some people might say to me that our feelings do not define our thinking and perceptions in life and that it is all just a matter of how we respond to our problems in life. But this would be false here in my case of depression and anhedonia. How is one supposed to experience any sense of motivation, inspiration, bond, etc. while feeling depressed and also having anhedonia? They might very well claim that they have somehow managed to achieve this, but it is only how we feel that defines us and our lives as either being good or bad and all our thoughts and perceptions are neutral as I've just said before.
 
Now even though I still value other good people even despite my depression and anhedonia, I can be a composer to help and inspire many people. However, I also have a personal life of my own to enjoy through my pleasure, too. If I can't get that personal life of my own, then this is why I have given up being a composer only until my full pleasure returns (if it ever does). I have just as much value as any other good person and I have every right to have focus on myself and to want this personal life of my own back. We are of just as much value to ourselves as we are to each other. Therefore, I have every right to give up on my dreams for now (and to even end my own life if it were somehow proven to me that I would never be able to recover my pleasure). Me choosing to live for others without my pleasure is nothing more than me lingering on in this life for their sakes. There is nothing good about me and my life in helping others without my pleasure. It may be good for them, but it is nothing good for me. Some people might say to me that me living for others is my own personal life and that there is no need for me to have a personal life of my own to experience pleasure in when I can instead have all the focus and live for others. First off, we are of just as much value to ourselves as we are to each other as I've said before and it would be demeaning of myself to have less focus towards myself and to have all the focus and attention towards others just as demeaning as it would be for me to tell you to have all the focus and attention towards me. Second, even if me choosing to live for others was somehow a personal good life of my own, then there would be two aspects of my personal life.
 
One aspect would be me living for others while the other aspect would be living for myself in me having pleasure in my own personal life. Therefore, since I have just as much good value as any other good person, then that gives me the right to have that other aspect in my life. If I can't have that other aspect, then me and my own personal life is nothing good at all. We all have personal lives to attend to. Not just in the sense of living for others, but in living for ourselves and experiencing pleasure in our own personal lives. Therefore, I have a personal life of my own to experience pleasure in which would be my profound feelings of pleasure experienced from listening to music, composing, other good things in my life, and having a profound bond, inspiration, and connection with the characters and their worlds through my pleasure. Even though I could very well live for others more than I am now, I still have this personal life of my own that I deserve to have. Since I have just as much good value as any other good person, then that means that this life has to work out for both of us. In other words, I must have my own good life while others have their good lives of being helped by me and such. If I can't have my own personal life of pleasure ever given back to me, then that gives me the right to end my life and to no longer live for others. I wouldn't be having lesser good value towards these people in me choosing to end my life. Rather, the good value that I once had towards living to help these people and to live for them to not cause them grief, this good value has been redirected towards another good value towards these people. This new good value I would have towards these people would be that it is just time for me to go and that they should live on, prosper, and find their own ways and strengths in life without me. And that I would now have someone else take my place to help these people. I would also be having good value towards this person as well since I would be saying to him/her in my mind for him/her to value helping these people and for that to make his/her life good and worth living. Therefore, I would not be having less value towards this person and/or others by giving this person the hard work of taking my place to help these people. It would be the right thing to do since such an inferior worthless life I would be having if I could never recover my pleasure, this life would absolutely need to be ended.
 
Now I realize that there are composers who have composed great pieces of music through their suffering. However, that doesn't matter at all to me. The only thing that matters to me is my pleasure and composing through my pleasure alone. You can also compose pieces of music that have a tragic, dark, and gothic feel to them through your pleasure alone anyway (the pleasure in tragic, dark, and gothic things) and that was also my intention. You can compose such pieces of music through pleasure alone and they can be just as good as (and even better) than what you have composed through your suffering.
 
In conclusion, I would like to say that this isn't just some black and white mindset I am having here. My life really is all black (bad) and there are no shades of grey whatsoever. In other words, there are no brief moments of pleasure whatsoever in my life to at least put my life in the grey zone. Also, my personal values that say that pleasure is the one and only good thing in my personal life, this is a strong and strict personal value I hold and you would have no right to try and change it just as I would also have no right to go up to you and to try and change your personal values. It would be just as offensive to me for someone to try and change my values just as offensive as it would be to you if I tried to change your values (even if it meant that not having these values meant bringing you less suffering in your life). Therefore, I MUST have my life of full normal pleasure given back to me that I once had before. I must have my life back. Otherwise, if my pleasure is permanently lost, then I will go with it. I won't have it any other way.
 
Me writing music through my suffering only serves and will only serve to make me feel that much worse and is only an insult and a mockery to me since I am not instead pursuing my dream of being a composer the only way I wanted to which would be through my pleasure.  It would be a mockery and an insult to the one and only life I wanted to live which would be a life of full normal pleasure that I once had before.  Even though it is your own personal value that says that me making good music despite my depression and anhedonia is a good thing, my personal value says it's not at all.  Again, my values say that it is only my pleasure that makes me, my life, and my composing dream anything good.  Me choosing to become a composer anyway would only serve to be a mockery and an insult to the one and only good and greatest life I wanted to live which would be a life of full normal pleasure I once had before.  If, for example, I was the greatest composer in the world right now despite my depression and anhedonia and other people gave me a title of greatness, then this title of greatness would only be a mockery and an insult to me since it is not my own title of greatness I wanted through my pleasure.  For them to deem me as great would be no different than them saying to me that I am great for living a worthless inferior life that is nothing good at all.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:05:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2015/02/11 04:02:15
I hope you find it.
 
I've learned one thing in my 62 years in this earth. I will never move ahead if I dwell on the past. I must take action today to change my life. And when I wake up tomorrow I must do it again.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:13:48 (permalink)
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I hope you find it.
 
I've learned one thing in my 62 years in this earth. I will never move ahead if I dwell on the past. I must take action today to change my life. And when I wake up tomorrow I must do it again.


Yes, you are absolutely right.  Which is the reason why I am doing all I can to try and recover my lost pleasure through therapy and medication as well as other possible treatments.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:15:40 (permalink)
What exactly is it about this forum that makes you keep dropping all your baggage here? I feel for ya but what, after all these threads and drawn out discussions, are you hoping to gain?
 
You've been offered advice and sympathy but you flat out reject it all. We obviously do not have the answers you are looking for.
 
And really... if you put all this seemingly endless pontification and malaise into writing some music you might just come up with something intersting.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:17:15 (permalink)
I am sorry to hear about your problems but I am not sure if it helps you to write about them here. What might help could be somebody like say a therapist.
EDIT: I just noticed you already talked about what I suggested. Sorry.

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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:22:29 (permalink)
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What exactly is it about this forum that makes you keep dropping all your baggage here? I feel for ya but what, after all these threads and drawn out discussions, are you hoping to gain?
 
You've been offered advice and sympathy but you flat out reject it all. We obviously do not have the answers you are looking for.
 
And really... if you put all this seemingly endless pontification and malaise into writing some music you might just come up with something intersting.




Me writing music through my suffering only serves and will only serve to make me feel that much worse and is only an insult and a mockery to me since I am not instead pursuing my dream of being a composer the only way I wanted to which would be through my pleasure.  It would be a mockery and an insult to the one and only life I wanted to live which would be a life of full normal pleasure that I once had before.
 
As for what I'm hoping to gain, I am just talking about my personal issues here since it is in the appropriate part of this forum.  Sometimes, we talk about our problems not to just receive suggestions, but for also others to just listen and sympathize with.  But as for suggestions others have been making (such as that one suggestion bapu just made above which I have just accepted and agreed with), the only advice and suggestions I would reject would be those that try and change my personal hedonistic values and beliefs since we have no right to try and change each others values and beliefs as I just said in my opening post.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:33:39 (permalink)
The last thread you were empathising with Hitler and talking about harming others. I reserve the right to reject those values and beliefs.
 
Go make some music. Plenty of good music is made in the complete absence of pleasure. Some would argue the BEST music is made in the complete absence of pleasure.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:37:28 (permalink)
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The last thread you were empathising with Hitler and talking about harming others. I reserve the right to reject those values and beliefs.
 
Go make some music. Plenty of good music is made in the complete absence of pleasure. Some would argue the BEST music is made in the complete absence of pleasure.


We can forget about what I said about Hitler since I didn't really mean it and was just over exaggerating.  But like I said, even though it is your own personal value that says that me making good music despite my depression and anhedonia is a good thing, my personal value says it's not at all.  Again, my values say that it is only my pleasure that makes me, my life, and my composing dream anything good.  Me choosing to become a composer anyway would only serve to be a mockery and an insult to the one and only good and greatest life I wanted to live which would be a life of full normal pleasure I once had before.  If, for example, I was the greatest composer in the world right now despite my depression and anhedonia and other people gave me a title of greatness, then this title of greatness would only be a mockery and an insult to me since it is not my own title of greatness I wanted through my pleasure.  For them to deem me as great would be no different than them saying to me that I am great for living a worthless inferior life that is nothing good at all.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:42:28 (permalink)

https://soundcloud.com/doghouse-riley/tracks 
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:43:05 (permalink)
So...... you're not going to make music until you get your full pleasure back.
 
But in the meantime you'll simply talk about how you can't make music because of you lack of full pleasure.
 
In psych 101 that would be called a circular pattern.
 
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:46:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby sharke 2015/02/11 10:29:04
You ever think that maybe if you plodded on and just DID it maybe you'd suddenly wake up one day feeling pleasure again because you actually accomplished something related to your goal?
 
Of course you have because that is EXACTLY what I said the first time you popped in here with this crap. You rejected it and made up a pile of excuses and justifications.
 
You don't want to learn how to write music. You don't want to learn how to play an instrument of any kind. You are convinced you are an "epic" talent that the world is being denied but you refuse to take any actions to prove it and get angry and indignant at the fact noone is handing you awards and singing your praises.
 
It may seem like I'm being nasty but if you want it that badly DO IT! That's what every single other person on here has done. We PLAY and MAKE music whether we are geniuses or not because that's what we want to do... so we DO IT!!
 
 
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:48:32 (permalink)
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So...... you're not going to make music until you get your full pleasure back.
 
But in the meantime you'll simply talk about how you can't make music because of you lack of full pleasure.
 
In psych 101 that would be called a circular pattern.
 
My work is done here.




This is the Choola Choola guy. I wish him luck with whatever he's got goin' on but he has no interest in anything anyone has to say. This is like the fifth handle I've seen him use.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:52:26 (permalink)
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You ever think that maybe if you plodded on and just DID it maybe you'd suddenly wake up one day feeling pleasure again because you actually accomplished something related to your goal?
 
Of course you have because that is EXACTLY what I said the first time you popped in here with this crap. You rejected it and made up a pile of excuses and justifications.
 
You don't want to learn how to write music. You don't want to learn how to play an instrument of any kind. You are convinced you are an "epic" talent that the world is being denied but you refuse to take any actions to prove it and get angry and indignant at the fact noone is handing you awards and singing your praises.
 
It may seem like I'm being nasty but if you want it that badly DO IT! That's what every single other person on here has done. We PLAY and MAKE music whether we are geniuses or not because that's what we want to do... so we DO IT!!
 
 




My pleasure can only be recovered by other means such as through electric shock therapy or by other means.  It cannot be recovered by me doing the things I would of otherwise enjoyed since this anhedonia has already been going on for 7 months and no amount of me engaging in enjoyable activities has brought back any degree of pleasure whatsoever.
 
As for me learning music theory and such, I may have been reluctant at first since the idea of learning and such wasn't very appealing to me at first and was boring to me.  But over time, I have developed a sense of enjoyment towards learning.  But that has all faded away now that I have this anhedonia.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 21:58:19 (permalink)
So continue learning the theory (it is a rather dry and bland subject anyway). Then if and when you feel better you'll have some knowledge to help you acheive your (supposed) goal of being a composer.
 
I have been in ridiculous downswings in my life that most people would have eaten a bullet over. What did I do? I put my damned head down, learned theory and broke through it.
 
Depression is self perpetuating. The trick is to distract yourself in the midst of it, keep busy and make yourself "feel" useful and valuable... even if it is just a charade. Eventually you WILL become useful and valuable to yourself and others which helps lift the depression.
 
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 22:01:39 (permalink)
For the love of God someone please lock this thread. Ima begging you!

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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 22:04:54 (permalink)
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So continue learning the theory (it is a rather dry and bland subject anyway). Then if and when you feel better you'll have some knowledge to help you acheive your (supposed) goal of being a composer.
 
I have been in ridiculous downswings in my life that most people would have eaten a bullet over. What did I do? I put my damned head down, learned theory and broke through it.
 
Depression is self perpetuating. The trick is to distract yourself in the midst of it, keep busy and make yourself "feel" useful and valuable... even if it is just a charade. Eventually you WILL become useful and valuable to yourself and others which helps lift the depression.
 
You're welcome. My consulting fee is $50. You can pay the receptionist on the way out. We will not be booking you for another appointment.
 
G'night.




Although I appreciate your suggestion, why would I do anything in my life if it is nothing good without my pleasure?  You might now be asking that if I am not willing to do anything in my life without my pleasure, then why is it that I am talking here and trying to help recover my lost pleasure?  It would be because me living to try and recover my lost pleasure the only way that I know is likely to work (through electric shock therapy and such) and me talking about my loss of pleasure is the only thing now making my life at least a tad bit worth living for now despite my anhedonia and depression.  In other words, the only life worth living to me now would be me living to try and regain the very thing that made my life worth living for in the first place (which would be my pleasure) and nothing else.  Not even pursuing my own composing dream right now would make my life good and worth living.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 22:25:01 (permalink)
Don't bother replying with any advice or suggestions, no matter how well intended they are. He'll just roll out the same stock reply that nothing is worth doing because he can't experience pleasure. I'm sorry to sound harsh and heartless but let's face it, we've all been here before with this guy. Whatever you say, he'll dismiss out of hand and repeat how pointless everything is. I cannot help but feel that this is all just a cry for attention. He's up there on his podium of self pity, and woe be tide anyone who tries to tell him that things aren't as bad as they seem. This is a job for a trained psychiatrist, not members of a lighthearted forum.
 
SonicFan you are taking advantage of the good nature of people on this forum for purposes of attention and I would respectfully ask you to stop it. There are other people who can help you, whose job it is to help people. You have made it quite clear, in post after post, that you have no intention of accepting anyone's advice and no intention of absorbing a damn thing anyone says to you. So please take it elsewhere. There are forums dedicated to this kind of stuff - this is not one of them.

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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 22:31:49 (permalink)
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Don't bother replying with any advice or suggestions, no matter how well intended they are. He'll just roll out the same stock reply that nothing is worth doing because he can't experience pleasure. I'm sorry to sound harsh and heartless but let's face it, we've all been here before with this guy. Whatever you say, he'll dismiss out of hand and repeat how pointless everything is. I cannot help but feel that this is all just a cry for attention. He's up there on his podium of self pity, and woe be tide anyone who tries to tell him that things aren't as bad as they seem. This is a job for a trained psychiatrist, not members of a lighthearted forum.
 
SonicFan you are taking advantage of the good nature of people on this forum for purposes of attention and I would respectfully ask you to stop it. There are other people who can help you, whose job it is to help people. You have made it quite clear, in post after post, that you have no intention of accepting anyone's advice and no intention of absorbing a damn thing anyone says to you. So please take it elsewhere. There are forums dedicated to this kind of stuff - this is not one of them.




So you think I am just begging for self-pity?  I'm actually not and I am actually trying to rationalize and reason against the values others have which state my pleasure is not the only good and greatest thing in my life.  I am not in the mindset of some whiny spoiled brat seeking attention and self-pity.  Rather, I am in a cool calm intellectual state of mind trying to refute and disprove the things you and others are saying.
 
I am against the values and beliefs of others which state that there are other things in life that are good besides our pleasure.  I wish to prove once and for all through science and/or philosophy that my hedonistic values and beliefs are correct and that the values and beliefs of others are wrong (or, at least, I am hoping to disprove them anyway).  This is because there are many people who would say to me something such as that "We all have losses we must accept and move on with.  Therefore, you should, too."  These types of people do not understand my hedonistic mindset and just simply reject it out of thin air.  However, if I were to somehow prove my hedonistic values and beliefs as being true somehow, only then would these people truly understand my loss of pleasure and only then would they understand my hedonistic values and beliefs and agree with them.
 
I know I said earlier that I would have no right to go against the values and beliefs of others just as they would have no right to go against mine.  However, I do have the right to try and disprove them to at least try and make you see how you are wrong (that is, if you are wrong to begin with).  However, I could be the one who is wrong.  But even if I am wrong and that there are truly other good and greater things in my life besides my pleasure, I am never going to change my hedonistic values anyway since they are my one and only true values in life.
 
The only other thing now in my life that makes my life worth living despite my depression and anhedonia is me living to try and prove once and for all that we are all inferior human beings with worthless lives without our pleasure.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 23:03:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby sharke 2015/02/10 23:14:09
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAYDiPizDIs

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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 23:09:06 (permalink)
You repeat the same stuff over and over and it's gibberish to everyone except you. This forum is not the place for it. Please go and unravel your brain somewhere else. I'm on the brink of reporting it as spam. 

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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 23:12:53 (permalink)
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You repeat the same stuff over and over and it's gibberish to everyone except you. This forum is not the place for it. Please go and unravel your brain somewhere else. I'm on the brink of reporting it as spam. 




I have made a final edit to my previous post just in case you or anyone else wishes to read and respond to it anyway.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/10 23:36:18 (permalink)
hedonistic values? And here I thought it was a sickness...hmmm, well I'm happy anyway. Good luck.

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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/11 00:04:58 (permalink)
There is no valid treatment or cure for social anhedonia. So I guess you're SOL on that, ol pal. But I can tell ya quite honestly that simply yammering on about it in seemingly endless monologues is no way to engender either sympathy or empathy among your fellow forumites. Try having a martini and an "old fashioned" and see if that helps. Even if only for a minute or two.

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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/11 02:52:35 (permalink)
I am going to make one last important point here which is that I only live by my own values and not the values of others.  Therefore, I do not live by the values of others who tell me that I should and would be a great person for pursuing my composing dream anyway without my pleasure.
 
If it were somehow proven to me right now that I would never be able to recover my pleasure, then the only thing that would make me the better person would be for me to end my life.  Therefore, I am the better person for giving up on my dreams and I am the better person for ending my life.  Me accepting my loss of pleasure, moving on in life, and pursuing my composing dream anyway, this would make me and my life inferior and worthless since I would be living by the loathsome values of others and not my own hedonistic values.
 
Now as for anyone who would tell me that I would be selfish and such for ending my life in the event that my pleasure doesn't recover, then you honestly expect me to live my life having no personal good life of my own to experience pleasure in?  Furthermore, for you to expect that from me would mean that you have utterly demeaned my own personal value as a human being and my life for rejecting my desire to have a personal life of pleasure of my own.  You would have rejected my own personal good value that I have which would be my right to have a life of full pleasure.
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/11 02:58:18 (permalink)
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You ever think that maybe if you plodded on and just DID it maybe you'd suddenly wake up one day feeling pleasure again because you actually accomplished something related to your goal?
 
Of course you have because that is EXACTLY what I said the first time you popped in here with this crap. You rejected it and made up a pile of excuses and justifications.
 
You don't want to learn how to write music. You don't want to learn how to play an instrument of any kind. You are convinced you are an "epic" talent that the world is being denied but you refuse to take any actions to prove it and get angry and indignant at the fact noone is handing you awards and singing your praises.
 
It may seem like I'm being nasty but if you want it that badly DO IT! That's what every single other person on here has done. We PLAY and MAKE music whether we are geniuses or not because that's what we want to do... so we DO IT!!
 
 




My pleasure can only be recovered by other means such as through electric shock therapy or by other means.  It cannot be recovered by me doing the things I would of otherwise enjoyed since this anhedonia has already been going on for 7 months and no amount of me engaging in enjoyable activities has brought back any degree of pleasure whatsoever.
 
As for me learning music theory and such, I may have been reluctant at first since the idea of learning and such wasn't very appealing to me at first and was boring to me.  But over time, I have developed a sense of enjoyment towards learning.  But that has all faded away now that I have this anhedonia.




I wish you well and for a speedy recovery.
 
At least twice in my life I have lost two workmates; one due to cancer (at age 21) she died not long after her Birthday, which I attended (it was an amazing event).  She was a very talent actress who appeared on several popular TV series and also did live theater (acting/singing).  She had an incredible voice and vocal range, very talent. At the time I was lining up a record deal, that fell through. The other girl was in a close relationship with me worked for a highly respected music business, anyway... she got hit by a speeding courier van and die instantly, she was only 19 years old. Her parents called me, broke the news to me, she always kept song excerpts I wrote for her. I miss her, I loved her very much.
 
Anyway, it took me a while to get back to writing songs. Please allow time to heal your pain,  meanwhile I strongly suggest you continue with health care and focus on another hobby i.e. write a book as this may help you focus on other goals that can be just as rewarding.
 
Take care, I wish you the very best.
 
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/11 03:45:28 (permalink)
Not again...

 
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Re: I MUST have my life of full pleasure back to be a musician/composer 2015/02/11 07:44:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/02/11 15:38:39
Locking this thread.
 

Note to SonicFan

 
Matt,  this is a MUSIC forum by a MUSIC SOFTWARE company to provide support for their software.  They allow "general discussion" in the Coffee House, but it is still expected to be primarily music related chat between musicians.
 
I have no way of knowing if you use Sonar or even own any Cakewalk software, but that is irrelevant because the subject you keep repeating over and over is not relevant for this forum, not even in the Coffee House.
 
It's not that we don't care,  there are some very caring people here, but you ignore most of what is said and just repeat the same thing over again.
 
If you wish to continue taking part in this forum please limit your posts to subjects relevant to the forum.
Any further threads you create that follow your past pattern will be removed without notification.
If you persist in the current line of posting in other threads, the posts will be removed and you will be banned (again).
 

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