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Re:I Should Know Better - to remix or not to remix?- REMIXED!
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Re:I Should Know Better - to remix or not to remix?- REMIXED again 4-20
2012/04/20 19:38:44
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I've taken your suggestions again and have further refined the mix of this song. I really appreciate all the ears out there and the time taken to help me. I hope I'm a little closer to what some of you hear. The new mix can be found here: http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11587094&q=hi, or in post #1. The old mix is still on my soundclick site.
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Re:I Should Know Better - to remix or not to remix?- REMIXED again 4-20
2012/04/21 03:55:52
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I think that's much better, the bass/drums are now much more there to my ears, driving it. If anything the snare could be a up a little more and perhaps more centred, it sounds a bit far to the right to me, but that's nit picking.
Good song.
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Re:I Should Know Better - to remix or not to remix?- REMIXED again 4-20
2012/04/21 08:05:20
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Kick left, snare right: may I ask why? Cuz this mix is pretty much there, except for that strange panning.
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Re:I Should Know Better - to remix or not to remix?- REMIXED again 4-20
2012/04/21 10:50:02
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Hi Lynn,
Agree with James Yoyo on all his posts regarding this. Your voice is incredible...the tune is great. If I can offer some subjectivity...which I normally don;t do when responding to people's babies....with a little work in the instrument selection as well as the mix, this could be a really fantastic tune because it is already.
The panning thing is totally making it sound too separated and killing the impact to me. Your performances on everything are great! But I'd love to hear a really pumped up, "now" poppy drum sound on this with a bit more life into the kit. Bass, synths and guitars sound great....but we're lacking that nice low end punch in my opinion. Then again, if we were to listen to music like this in the 80's, you've pretty much nailed what was going on there. They didn't give us much in the low end area as far as impact went. So if that's what you were going for, you got it spot on. But if I listen to like a Robert Palmer or a Huey Lewis, the one thing that hits me is the poppiness of the drums as well as the low end they give you. And I think this song is sort of in that style.
However, listening to it for what it is, the only thing I'd change would be to get rid of the crazy panning, pump up the drums a bit and let it fly. :) Excellent piece!
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Lynn
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Re:I Should Know Better - to remix or not to remix?- REMIXED again 4-20
2012/04/21 11:16:51
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To FBB, James, and Danny, I want to thank you for your comments. I hear you and agree about the drums and the panning of the bass and snare. I'm using my old Alesis DM5 on this tune, and it's a little trickier than Superior Drums or Session Drummer to nail down. The panning is via the machine, so I'm going to center the bass and snare a bit more on the next pass. I'm only offered 3 pan positions per side, so I may have to process things differently. I tried mixing this without my outboard compressor, but I may have to wire it up to get that pop you ask for, Danny. I have the weekend to do this so stay tuned. jamesyoyo
Kick left, snare right: may I ask why? Cuz this mix is pretty much there, except for that strange panning.
Danny Danzi
Hi Lynn,
Agree with James Yoyo on all his posts regarding this. Your voice is incredible...the tune is great. If I can offer some subjectivity...which I normally don;t do when responding to people's babies....with a little work in the instrument selection as well as the mix, this could be a really fantastic tune because it is already.
The panning thing is totally making it sound too separated and killing the impact to me. Your performances on everything are great! But I'd love to hear a really pumped up, "now" poppy drum sound on this with a bit more life into the kit. Bass, synths and guitars sound great....but we're lacking that nice low end punch in my opinion. Then again, if we were to listen to music like this in the 80's, you've pretty much nailed what was going on there. They didn't give us much in the low end area as far as impact went. So if that's what you were going for, you got it spot on. But if I listen to like a Robert Palmer or a Huey Lewis, the one thing that hits me is the poppiness of the drums as well as the low end they give you. And I think this song is sort of in that style.
However, listening to it for what it is, the only thing I'd change would be to get rid of the crazy panning, pump up the drums a bit and let it fly. :) Excellent piece!
-Danny
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Re:I Should Know Better - 3rd REMIX as of 4-21
2012/04/21 15:08:43
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Here is my third remix of "I Should Know Better". I jumped through a few hoops to get here, but I compressed the bass drum and snare as had been suggested by several people. I also centered the bass and snare. If you have a moment, I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks again. It can be found here: http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11587094&q=hi, or at post #1.
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Re:I Should Know Better - to remix or not to remix?- REMIXED!
2012/04/23 13:39:05
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 This production just keeps getting better and better... love the song and the performances...
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2012/04/25 23:24:04
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Wow! I love this. Backing vocs give this added 3-D everywhere!
2:10 Middle is utterly astonishing on many levels: Diversion, sax, minors, etc.
One negative crit (to my crony ears only!): Lyrics, song, and lead singer seem to deteriorate suddenly and also by degrees ... in the last 50 seconds. It comes off quirky for me ... because I SOARED GREATLY within the 1st 3 minutes (on 1st listen)
... OTOH, the song motif excuses silliness ... and you probably aimed for 'childish-antics' for artsy reasons. But the awkwardness made me fall out of the sky ... I 'seriously' love those 1st 3 minutes on many levels.
Easily my fav of yours to date! The 1st 3 minutes: This is a forum masterpiece for me!
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2012/04/26 10:30:41
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Philip and Frank, I can't thank you enough for you kind words. This whole project has been a surprise and delight to me because I had written this song off for quite a while. It just shows you how invaluable this forum can be. I used to work with several other people who provided their ears and opinions for me to bounce ideas off of, but I now work alone, yet I have more help than ever before. I find it highly encouraging to come to this forum when I need help and have questions.
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2012/04/26 10:41:10
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Lynn
I must have missed the 2nd remix somehow but this one sounds great - all of the mix elements really jump out at you in the right places. Nice one Lynn
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Re:I Should Know Better - to remix or not to remix?- REMIXED!
2012/04/28 13:23:37
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Plenty of mix suggestions from the masters above, so I'll just weigh in with how much I liked the song - excellent! +1 on the Huey Lewis comparison, with a hint of John Hiatt.
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Lynn
This sounds great! Very present on my new D5's!!!
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Really nice! I didn't hear it until now, so I'm not sure where it's come from, but it sounds good to me. Your vocals really seem to fit this. I'm lovin' that bass too. Cool organ? and horns? Cool groove...I like it!
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Lynn
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2012/04/28 18:39:36
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To Daryl, JamesG, Rim, and Janet, thanks so much for your kind words. As I stated earlier, having all of you for assistants has really upped my game. When I started reviving this song, my expectations weren't nearly as high as they are now. This song really is a product of this forum as much as my own.
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